Separation of Facilities - Part 145 Repair Station

Cari Spears

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Muleskinner said:
Hi Cari,

What's new with your quest for FAA Certification?:)
Hi!

I forgot to get back and respond:eek:

A little busy lately and we have our ISO Surveillance Audit tomorrow. I'll stop in Friday with an update.

Thanks for asking!:agree:
 
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Don Palmer

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Cari Spears said:
Hi!

I forgot to get back and respond:eek:

A little busy lately and we have our ISO Surveillance Audit tomorrow. I'll stop in Friday with an update.

Thanks for asking!:agree:
Fare well with your ISO Surveillance Audit Cari. Will be looking forward to getting an update.:)

It's good to be busy!:rolleyes: Right?
 

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You guys got that right! Being busy is a good problem to have. We are smack in the middle of the addition being built and we're moving in two more new thread grinders in January - so I have been a busy little purchasing agent - got to buy drip pans, leveling pads, etc. - got to tool up both machines too - dressing wheels, etc. We are also having a giant filter system delivered sometime in the next couple of weeks - it's a big central filter and chiller for 5 or 6 of our thread grinders - eliminating all of individual ones behind each machine. Whew!:eek:

We are currently interviewing for machinists because we are starting a second shift. I've been here 5 years now - it's never been busier!!
 
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Graeme

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Separation by paperwork not location

Cari,

I discovered this thread late (day before yesterday) and then had to check on something, so you will be all done and over with your audit. But I'll pass this on anyway.

I an currently working (as a contractor) with -- as they say on some game shows -- a major airline headquartered in the largest (by land area) state East of the Mississippi. They do most of their own maintenance (Part 121). They also do work for other US and international carriers, and are a service center for certain airframe or engine manufacturers (Part 145). Which one applies is identified by the color of the work order tag.

Most paperwork is, of course, on white paper. The paperwork for 145 work is printed on a distinctively different color of paper, and nothing else is printed on that color. That alerts the person that additional things need to be checked before starting. (Does the contract require use of their manual instead of ours? If we use our manual and it has an "alternate" process, can we use that or must we stick with the original? And more ...) It also designates that additional paperwork may be required when the job is complete. Departments that have a lot of 145 work may have segregated incoming and outgoing shelves. Other than that, though, the work is done in the same hangars or shops, using the same workstations and tools that we use for 121 work.

In addition to the different color paper, the people doing the work all have recurring awareness training on the different requirements.

I can't even imagine how horrible it would be if we had to have a separate paint hangar, engine test cell, avionics shop, maintenance hangar, compass rose or other facility dedicated just to part 145 work!

Disclaimer: being a contractor (and maybe not for much longer) I do not and cannot speak for the company; I can merely report on what I see.
 

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Graeme said:
Departments that have a lot of 145 work may have segregated incoming and outgoing shelves.
This is an important issue for us. We receive dozens of items for repair evaluation daily - from all different kinds of industries.

The different color paper is an exellent idea. We use routers - all white - we could print them out on colored paper for Part 145 work. What a nice, simple solution.

Thanks!:agree:
 
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Don Palmer

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Good Ideas

Graeme, you present some good ideas here. Of course 'color control' and 'segregated shelving' needs to prove effective for the PMI to buy-off on it. I have no doubt, Cari and her organization is going to work this all out to the good. It's been a very interesting thread to follow, and I for one very much appreciate Cari's willingness to share this with us all. Likewise, someone such as yourself pops into a thread such as this and offers a fresh take on the situation. Thanks! :)


Graeme said:
Cari,

I discovered this thread late (day before yesterday) and then had to check on something, so you will be all done and over with your audit. But I'll pass this on anyway.

I an currently working (as a contractor) with -- as they say on some game shows -- a major airline headquartered in the largest (by land area) state East of the Mississippi. They do most of their own maintenance (Part 121). They also do work for other US and international carriers, and are a service center for certain airframe or engine manufacturers (Part 145). Which one applies is identified by the color of the work order tag.

Most paperwork is, of course, on white paper. The paperwork for 145 work is printed on a distinctively different color of paper, and nothing else is printed on that color. That alerts the person that additional things need to be checked before starting. (Does the contract require use of their manual instead of ours? If we use our manual and it has an "alternate" process, can we use that or must we stick with the original? And more ...) It also designates that additional paperwork may be required when the job is complete. Departments that have a lot of 145 work may have segregated incoming and outgoing shelves. Other than that, though, the work is done in the same hangars or shops, using the same workstations and tools that we use for 121 work.

In addition to the different color paper, the people doing the work all have recurring awareness training on the different requirements.

I can't even imagine how horrible it would be if we had to have a separate paint hangar, engine test cell, avionics shop, maintenance hangar, compass rose or other facility dedicated just to part 145 work!

Disclaimer: being a contractor (and maybe not for much longer) I do not and cannot speak for the company; I can merely report on what I see.
 
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Don Palmer

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Growth

Cari Spears said:
You guys got that right! Being busy is a good problem to have. We are smack in the middle of the addition being built and we're moving in two more new thread grinders in January - so I have been a busy little purchasing agent - got to buy drip pans, leveling pads, etc. - got to tool up both machines too - dressing wheels, etc. We are also having a giant filter system delivered sometime in the next couple of weeks - it's a big central filter and chiller for 5 or 6 of our thread grinders - eliminating all of individual ones behind each machine. Whew!:eek:

We are currently interviewing for machinists because we are starting a second shift. I've been here 5 years now - it's never been busier!!
Growth is good, but comes with growing pains.:rolleyes:
 
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