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TedCambron
I'm with a start up company. We are a second tier manufacturer of electrical connectors for the automotive industry. We are currently working towards a QS-9000 registration. Should we be thinking TS instead?
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Wes Bucey
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Welcome to the Cove, Ted!TedCambron said:
I certainly wouldn't bother with QS9000. What do your customers think? They are the ones you should talk to. Both QS9000 and TS16949 are based on ISO 9000, albeit different generations of ISO. The main "extra" of TS16949 seems to be incorporating customer-specific requirements.
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D.Scott
Ted, Welcome to the Cove.
QS-9000 will be gone in 2006 and has already "died" for Daimler-Chrysler. The newer 16949 is the automotive equivelent to QS and is what everybody is transitioning to (the alternative being going to ISO-9000:2000 if you are not required to have 16949). The difference between QS and 16949 are gigantic starting with the process approach of the new standard. In my opinion, you would be much further ahead by just going to 16949 right now. Development of a QS system for the short term would be a time and money waster.
Dave
QS-9000 will be gone in 2006 and has already "died" for Daimler-Chrysler. The newer 16949 is the automotive equivelent to QS and is what everybody is transitioning to (the alternative being going to ISO-9000:2000 if you are not required to have 16949). The difference between QS and 16949 are gigantic starting with the process approach of the new standard. In my opinion, you would be much further ahead by just going to 16949 right now. Development of a QS system for the short term would be a time and money waster.
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TedCambron
Thanks Dave and Wes for the quick response. You guys pretty much confirmed my thoughts exactly.
I agree with what everyone above said - go for TS 16949.
If you are tier 2, your direct customer(s) are required to be TS 16949 certified, which includes development of their suppliers (you) with the goal of achieving conformance with TS 16949. At a minimum you will need to be 3rd-party registered to ISO 9001:2000, which is not a really good match with QS-9000.
If you are tier 2, your direct customer(s) are required to be TS 16949 certified, which includes development of their suppliers (you) with the goal of achieving conformance with TS 16949. At a minimum you will need to be 3rd-party registered to ISO 9001:2000, which is not a really good match with QS-9000.
