Should I remove references to AS9120 / ISO 9001 from my Quality Manual and QMS?

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fletch

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My company is currently ISO9001:2000 registered and I am now changing the QMS to AS9120. In my current QMS I reference ISO9001:2000 in several procedures as well in the Quality Manual.

So my question is in my QMS documentation do I reference both ISO9001:2000 and AS9120 together in procedures? or do I drop the ISO reference?

If I reference both should I print it as such? ISO9001:2000 / AS9120

some of the easiest things are not so easy? maybe I need more coffee to get my brain started?
 
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Coury Ferguson

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Re: question on AS9120/ISO9001 reference

My company is currently ISO9001:2000 registered and I am now changing the QMS to AS9120. In my current QMS I reference ISO9001:2000 in several procedures as well in the Quality Manual.

So my question is in my QMS documentation do I reference both ISO9001:2000 and AS9120 together in procedures? or do I drop the ISO reference?

If I reference both should I print it as such? ISO9001:2000 / AS9120

some of the easiest things are not so easy? maybe I need more coffee to get my brain started?
Just my opinion here: That would be the Organization's choice. If you are Registered to ISO9001:2000 and are going to add AS9120 to your scope, there is no reason to remove the ISO9001:2000 reference. Your scope will change, and you will have some more procedures that you will need to add to meet the AS9120.

But, to remove the reference, no I don't think so. You may want to add the AS9120 references.


BTW: I added to your thread title.
 
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Re: question on AS9120/ISO9001 reference

My company is currently ISO9001:2000 registered and I am now changing the QMS to AS9120. In my current QMS I reference ISO9001:2000 in several procedures as well in the Quality Manual.

So my question is in my QMS documentation do I reference both ISO9001:2000 and AS9120 together in procedures? or do I drop the ISO reference?

If I reference both should I print it as such? ISO9001:2000 / AS9120

some of the easiest things are not so easy? maybe I need more coffee to get my brain started?
Get more coffee - espresso! You're making it too complicated - to tie your procedures to ISO 9001 or AS 9100 is a level of complication you don't need. Sure, go ahead with some 'look up table' for your manual (if you have one which mirrors the standards anyway, why bother with a reference?)
 
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fletch

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Re: Should I remove-Question on AS9120/ISO9001 reference

Thanks Coury,

It can't get any easier for us as we are a wire and cable distributor and all we do is spool wire.
 

DannyK

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Within the Quality Manual, you should list the applicable quality management standards that you conform to. Management usually sign offs a statement indicating their commitment to these standards. Listing the AS9120 or ISO 9001 anywhere else is up to you, unless there is a specific requirement in AS9120 that does not apply to all customers.
 

julsbear

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A simple cross reference is not required but will be useful during audits if an auditor asks how do you cover 7.3......... and for any corrective actions that may arise.

It is also useful when a standard changes.

You can also use it to trace the interrelations between processes.
 
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The registrar I work with would prefer to see both AS and ISO referenced. For example for an AS9100 company they would prefer the documentation to show "AS9100B:2004 and ISO 9001:2000"
 

Stijloor

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The registrar I work with would prefer to see both AS and ISO referenced. For example for an AS9100 company they would prefer the documentation to show "AS9100B:2004 and ISO 9001:2000"
In an integrated Quality Management System it is not required/necessary. Including references to both Standards makes the job easier for the Auditor.;)

Stijloor.
 
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