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Does the absence of top management engagement result to a nonconformity?Not only should the plan be approved, but you should be engaging them in the planning of the audits.
Does the absence of top management engagement result to a nonconformity?Not only should the plan be approved, but you should be engaging them in the planning of the audits.
Management involvement in internal audit planning? Preparation of internal audit plan is part of the QMS.Agree, it's not a requirement; but management involvement is a requirement and this is one way to show a process to involve management in the QMS - for as far as it goes, anyway.
I don't require their approval. If they want to voice an objection I feel pretty sure they will do so. But getting evidence of approval might take longer than doing the audits...Yes, if and only if it is helpful. Audit delay due to audit plan approval pending from top management will be the next common thing, if we attach APPROVAL by top management.
The owner of the internal audit process must be having the authority to approve the internal audit plan and keep top management communicated.
Yes internal audit planning is part of the QMS. And we run on a three-year schedule so there's no reason to wonder what will be put on the year's schedule. But if there is a time frame we should stay away from due to a resourced project I am not aware of I welcome their telling me as early as possible. In addition, I welcome their requests to do subject based audits based on something they want to improve once I do an analysis via audit. Our QMS includes the opportunity for such input, and registrars are always happy to see that. When such input is received I make a note of it on the annual schedule: "XYZ process scheduled by request of So-and-so."Management involvement in internal audit planning? Preparation of internal audit plan is part of the QMS.
Management involvement in internal audit planning? Preparation of internal audit plan is part of the QMS.
Does the absence of top management engagement result to a nonconformity?
Management involvement in audit planning? Not directly.....Management involvement in internal audit planning? Preparation of internal audit plan is part of the QMS.
Yes, thank you. It did help. I finally understand Andy's response now too thanks to your explanations.Management involvement in audit planning? Not directly.....
You plan the audit, and keep in mind as Andy mentions "status and importance"
Do audit.
Discuss results of audit in management review and next plans based on results. Get the management decisions.
So here management involvement is present in internal audit.