Silly question..."elements of the standard" or "clauses of the standard"?

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DsqrdDGD909

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I realize this may seem like a very elementary question, but I'd like to know what folks here think is the best, most accurate phrase to use when referring to the sections of the standard - are they just that (sections), elements, or clauses?

Or does it really matter?
Just curious...
:thanks:
The only thing I can find is a guidance module.
ISO/TC 176/SC 2/N 525R.

In the document body and in the Annexes, clauses are made quite specific.

In the document body, "controlled in accordance with the requirements of clause 4.2.3." (emphasis added)

In annex B the table heading is clause 6.2.2 (e) for example.
 
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#12
I realize this may seem like a very elementary question, but I'd like to know what folks here think is the best, most accurate phrase to use when referring to the sections of the standard - are they just that (sections), elements, or clauses?

Or does it really matter?
Just curious...
:thanks:
Can anyone think of an instance where the distinction would be significant?
 

Jen Kirley

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:eek: I'm sorry, Jennifer, I didn't mean any insult....I have never dealt with QS9000 or TS, so I didn't know about that....:bonk:
Oh that's okay, not to worry. I sometimes step back and ask myself if I am confusing people by not getting my own story straight. :notangel:
 
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victoriab65

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The standard refers to clauses and subclauses throughout:
e.g., "clause 7," "clauses 4 to 8," "subclause 0.2," and "subclause 6.2.1."

"Element" was of course common terminology for ISO 13485:1996, but is not typically used for the process-based standard.
 
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fireonce

#16
Didn't QS9000 call the sections "elements"?

FWIW - I also refer to them as sections - as in "Section 7" - and clauses - as in "Clause 7.2.1".

Added: I just pulled out my copy of QS9000 and it does indeed call them "elements".
What you said is very professional.I agree with you.
 
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