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I have a question, our sister-company is only ISO registered; they would be providing a part to us (IATF) of which we would be doing very minimal work to before sending the part to our customer. The customer seems to be okay with the idea. What roadblocks would I run into, with regards to registrar audits?
 
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Section 8.4.2.3 Supplier quality management system development. I don't want to quote it word for word (copyright infringement) but basically says as long as they are ISO 9001 and working towards the ultimate objective to be certified to the automotive QMS standard.
 
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brandieb1230 said:
Section 8.4.2.3 Supplier quality management system development. I don't want to quote it word for word (copyright infringement) but basically says as long as they are ISO 9001 and working towards the ultimate objective to be certified to the automotive QMS standard.
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Thanks, I did just see that myself, which raised another question; could our customer write up an exemption for this clause, specifically the "working towards" part? The other option I thought of pursuing would be clause 8.4.1.3 Customer-directed sources. It does say that most all of 8.4 would apply, which means we would probably still end up back at 8.4.2.3. The problem with "working towards" is, this part would be the sister company's only automotive part. We aren't inclined to spend thousands extra for an IATF cert for only one part, at least not in the beginning. If more auto parts would be sourced, we would re-think that position.
 
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jimmymustang06 said:
Thanks, I did just see that myself, which raised another question; could our customer write up an exemption for this clause, specifically the "working towards" part? The other option I thought of pursuing would be clause 8.4.1.3 Customer-directed sources. It does say that most all of 8.4 would apply, which means we would probably still end up back at 8.4.2.3. The problem with "working towards" is, this part would be the sister company's only automotive part. We aren't inclined to spend thousands extra for an IATF cert for only one part, at least not in the beginning. If more auto parts would be sourced, we would re-think that position.
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If I were you, I would ask the customer- some of my SQE's would have no issues- others might. I would have my ducks in a row to show how you are verifying the conformance of the product in house from the sister- site as you are well aware we are responsible for our suppliers.

The fine print- working towards - that could be A LONG TIME to complete. I think as long as they are showing steps that they are considering it (reading standard, researching certification bodies and what is required, risk assessment of not having it (just some of the ideas of the top of my head))- it might work. ;)
 
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jimmymustang06 said:
Thanks, I did just see that myself, which raised another question; could our customer write up an exemption for this clause, specifically the "working towards" part? The other option I thought of pursuing would be clause 8.4.1.3 Customer-directed sources. It does say that most all of 8.4 would apply, which means we would probably still end up back at 8.4.2.3. The problem with "working towards" is, this part would be the sister company's only automotive part. We aren't inclined to spend thousands extra for an IATF cert for only one part, at least not in the beginning. If more auto parts would be sourced, we would re-think that position.
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"working towards" doesn't really have a meaning. Check out sanctioned interpretation 8. It allows you to determine supplier development via a risk based approach.
 
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