Which as Bev states (ok, I am intepreting), is like asking for a degree from Harvard, though the person from the local university is a better fit.
Which as Bev states (ok, I am intepreting), is like asking for a degree from Harvard, though the person from the local university is a better fit.
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chalapathi
There is no accreditation system in the field of six sigma, similar to ISO-9000. There is no body which recognizes the courses offered by consultants.
However, you have two third party certification services - ASQ and IQF.
To know more about ASQ (visit www.asq.org)
To know more about IQF (visit www.iqfnet.org)
Visit https://www.isl.in/iqfcertification.asp for a comparison of ASQ and IQF six sigma certifications.
Compared to the certificates issued by consultants or big companies, third party certification has more credibility and value in the job market.
However, you have two third party certification services - ASQ and IQF.
To know more about ASQ (visit www.asq.org)
To know more about IQF (visit www.iqfnet.org)
Visit https://www.isl.in/iqfcertification.asp for a comparison of ASQ and IQF six sigma certifications.
Compared to the certificates issued by consultants or big companies, third party certification has more credibility and value in the job market.
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JM_RESEARCH
Hi
Even though many hundreds , maybe thousands of companies run certified programs they aren't recognised by an formal institution its not like getting a degree. Therefore there is huge variation between the quality of the courses and the requirments to get your black belt.
As a MBB myself and a provider of training to many people over the years i would say the following is necessary to be a certified black belt, but this is just my opinion
1- Training by a well known supplier with a good track record
2- 15 days minimum (not on-line training)
3- 5 Days of the training using a statistics package such as minitab
4- 3 on-site projects which follow the DMAIC approach
5- Quanitified benefits of the projects
The most important thing for me is the evidense of the projects this is your black belt it shows you have understood the principles and applied them and achieved the benefits
I'm never interested in seeing certificates many people get them without actually doing the do
James
Even though many hundreds , maybe thousands of companies run certified programs they aren't recognised by an formal institution its not like getting a degree. Therefore there is huge variation between the quality of the courses and the requirments to get your black belt.
As a MBB myself and a provider of training to many people over the years i would say the following is necessary to be a certified black belt, but this is just my opinion
1- Training by a well known supplier with a good track record
2- 15 days minimum (not on-line training)
3- 5 Days of the training using a statistics package such as minitab
4- 3 on-site projects which follow the DMAIC approach
5- Quanitified benefits of the projects
The most important thing for me is the evidense of the projects this is your black belt it shows you have understood the principles and applied them and achieved the benefits
I'm never interested in seeing certificates many people get them without actually doing the do
James
How can the "quantified benefits" of a project (assuming the benefits are expressed in terms of money) be empirically verified?
Jim - are you asking this from an internal or external perspective? by that I mean that I can emperically verify 'quantifiable' benefits for any project perfromed in my own organization, but unless someone from a different organization performs the verification and 'attests' to it, I can't even come close. I can look at the data shown me to see if it passes the sniff test, but anyoen can make up data and charts in EXCEL and I'd never know...
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db
This is a problem to be sure. I heard of one company that changed the definition of defect. The result was a dramatic decrease in defects. Did anything improve? Probably not, only their unit of measure. With dollars, the situation could be just as fuzzy. Were the savings real, or just on paper? I was working with an assembly plant. We made a change that was calculated to save about 300K. But in reality nothing changed. The work that was avoided was replace with something else. No head count change, no increase in production, no decrease in costs. But if you calculate the time savings, and multiply that times the number of operators. Over a year, it looks like you saved a bundle. I have seen where BB projects have saved a company real money, however.
What I'm driving at is that basing the bestowing of black belts on project results seems to be play-acting at best. I've told the story before about customer who expected material certifications (gold was involved) to be notarized, and someone explaining the notarization process as "One person lies and another one swears to it." I'm not saying that SS project results are based on deliberate prevarication, but I am saying that it seems silly to demand results that can't be objectively verified.
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saiprasanthi
For Best Online Six Sigma Training, Certification and Implemeting the concepts in projects visit Institute of Sigma Learning website.
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saiprasanthi
I am pursuing my certification with them. I have found the training so good that I want to share with all of you here. 
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