Smile! Your mail is on camera!

Wes Bucey

Prophet of Profit
This is simply a "For What It's Worth" item from today's New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/03/us/postal-service-confirms-photographing-all-us-mail.html):
August 2, 2013
Postal Service Confirms Photographing All U.S. Mail

By RON NIXON

WASHINGTON — The Postal Service on Friday confirmed that it takes a photograph of every letter and package mailed in the United States — about 160 billion pieces last year — and occasionally provides the photos to law enforcement agencies that request them as part of criminal cases.

The images are taken at more than 200 processing plants around the country and are used primarily to help the agency sort mail, the postmaster general, Patrick R. Donahoe, said in an interview with The Associated Press.

But Mr. Donahoe said that the images had been used “a couple of times” by law enforcement to trace letters in criminal cases, including one involving ricin-laced letters sent to President Obama and Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg of New York. The images of letters and packages are generally stored for a week to 30 days and then destroyed, he told the A.P.

Last month, The New York Times reported on the practice, which is called the Mail Isolation and Tracking system. The program was created by the Postal Service after the anthrax attacks in late 2001 killed five people, including two postal workers.

The Times reported that the program was a more expansive version of a longtime surveillance system called mail covers, where at the request of law enforcement officials, postal workers record information from the outside of letters and parcels before they are delivered. (Opening the mail would require a warrant.)

The information is then sent to the law enforcement agency that asked for it. Tens of thousands of pieces of mail each year undergo this scrutiny, and a number of law enforcement agencies have used it, like the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Department of Health and Human Services. Law enforcement officials called the mail covers an important investigative tool.

Mail covers are not subject to judicial oversight. Law enforcement agencies simply fill out a form and submit it to the Postal Inspection Service, an arm of the post office that oversees the programs.

The digital mail tracking programs had raised concerns about their sweeping nature because the post office and law enforcement agencies are allowed to monitor all mail, not just the mail of those suspected of a crime.

Mr. Donahoe said that unlike the National Security Agency’s collection of phone logs and overseas Web traffic that has come under scrutiny, the Postal Service does not maintain a massive database of the letter images. The scanning machines at the mail processing centers only keeps images of the letters they scan.

“It’s done by machine, so there’s no central area where any of this information would be,” he said. “It’s extremely expensive to keep pictures of billions of pieces of mail. So there’s no need for us to do that.”
:topic:I have to laugh thinking of what photos of MY snail mail show:

  • two dozen plus monthly or weekly trade magazines
  • half a dozen general interest magazines
  • all my utility bills
  • all my commercial bank and investment bank statements
  • all my credit card bills
  • birthday cards and holiday greeting cards
  • Fraternity and other association magazines, notices, and newsletters
  • 100 pounds or more per month of advertising, political, and other "junk" mail.
 
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Wes Bucey

Prophet of Profit
  • So the postal service wants to stop individual house delivery and change to "neighborhood" clusters of mailboxes (except for certified handicapped postal patrons) to save money.
  • So the postal service wants to stop Saturday delivery to save money.
  • So the postal service wants to raise rates for mailing because it's losing money.
BUT -
there's money to photograph and store the photo of EVERY piece of mail, despite the fact that it has no current method to "mine" the billions of photos. AND, despite the fact there is no current database to mine, we note there is no statement regarding future plans.

On another note - apparently the National Security Agency has plenty of money for computers and data-gathering devices and schemes, so could we suggest the NSA take over this expensive burden of photographing mail and, probably, devise a data mining system to deal with all the raw data? If so, maybe the postal service could maintain house to house delivery including Saturdays and maybe even LOWER the postal rates.

Please note this screed is delivered with a heavy dose of :sarcasm: and cynicism.

I think Big Brother was already here in 1984, but like the camel with his nose in the tent, we didn't notice until big Brother had possession of our body AND soul.
 
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kgott

We have all been brought up to believe we are free, independent, sovereign human beings but more and more each day we discover we are being treated as if we are somebodys property.

Whats next, getting micro-chipped as Arron Russo said?
 

Wes Bucey

Prophet of Profit
Freemasons have a free identification program for children and "at risk" adults. In The USA, each state has a slightly different program. A better description is at this link ((broken link removed)), but the short version is:
The person is fingerprinted, photographed, and a short video interview is shot and a DNA sample is taken.

The big deal is that ONLY the parent or guardian gets the material, not the Freemasons, not any government agency. The material is produced by the parent or guardian for use by the government agencies ONLY when the subject is missing or needs to be positively identified.

Seems to make a lot more sense than the government holding ALL the data (who knows to what other purpose another administration may use it for?)
 
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mguilbert

Freemasons have a free identification program for children and "at risk" adults. In The USA, each state has a slightly different program. A better description is at this link ((broken link removed)), but the short version is:
The person is fingerprinted, photographed, and a short video interview is shot and a DNA sample is taken.

The big deal is that ONLY the parent or guardian gets the material, not the Freemasons, not any government agency. The material is produced by the parent or guardian for use by the government agencies ONLY when the subject is missing or needs to be positively identified.

Seems to make a lot more sense than the government holding ALL the data (who knows to what other purpose another administration may use it for?)

We started the same program in Massachusetts. The Freemasons teamed up with the Dental Hygenists (teeth impressions/DNA), State Police (fingerprints), and a short video. They also offered material on how to detect and prevent abductors. These all went home with the parents/guardians. No items were retained by those performing these activitives. There is a story of one young girl who was picked up and spit all over the vehicle. The perp had the girl get out because her DNA was all over the vehicle.
 

Wes Bucey

Prophet of Profit
We started the same program in Massachusetts. The Freemasons teamed up with the Dental Hygenists (teeth impressions/DNA), State Police (fingerprints), and a short video. They also offered material on how to detect and prevent abductors. These all went home with the parents/guardians. No items were retained by those performing these activities. There is a story of one young girl who was picked up and spit all over the vehicle. The perp had the girl get out because her DNA was all over the vehicle.
Great story! I'm going to use it when I train the next batch of volunteers in September.
 
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Dan Armstrong

How do you guys think the mail gets sorted? They haven't done it manually for many years. The machines all have visual systems that read the addresses, then use that data to sort the mail. This isn't about surveillance, but cost and quality control. The fact that it can be used by law enforcement is an unfortunate (and probably unforseen) consequence.
 

Jim Wynne

Leader
Admin
How do you guys think the mail gets sorted? They haven't done it manually for many years. The machines all have visual systems that read the addresses, then use that data to sort the mail. This isn't about surveillance, but cost and quality control. The fact that it can be used by law enforcement is an unfortunate (and probably unforseen) consequence.

It is, or should be, possible to use a vision system for sorting without retaining the images.
 
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