Standards & Standard Maintenance - Knowing what the latest revisions are

SteelMaiden

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The customer is advising us to use a certain kind of steel, as in "Per ASTM A656" but that is all, they do not have revision or date of the ASTM document. They are trying to make sure we are comparing apples to apples.
I've found this fairly common in the steel industry. A lot of customers don't even know what the latest rev is.
 
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ScottK

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I've found this fairly common in the steel industry. A lot of customers don't even know what the latest rev is.
some of our steel suppliers don't know what the current rev is. :mg:
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My company has a boat load of standards. We don't buy sets, we buy the individual standards we need. I looked into a few automatic update services, but the cost was prohibitive for us because we have many standards we get to to one piece of business then never need it again.

So I, and/or one of my staff, go through the list every year and compare the rev levels we have to current rev levels available. This process and the results are documented.
Then I give a list of obsolete standards to the chief engineer with my recomendations of what we NEED to update to remain current to committments.
He then makes the decision on what is actually purchased.

Our biggest expense in standards is ASME Boiler & Pressure Vessel code books.
the president chokes on the PO when we have to update this.
But we need it.
 

SteelMaiden

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some of our steel suppliers don't know what the current rev is. :mg:
:lmao::biglaugh::lmao::lol: I can believe that. Just don't call me personally to find out what the latest rev date is, I am happy to say I don't have that responsibility anymore.

Our biggest expense in standards is ASME Boiler & Pressure Vessel code books.
the president chokes on the PO when we have to update this.
But we need it.
Heck, I choke when I have to do a requisition for an ASME book. :mg:
 
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jdtrixler

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So I, and/or one of my staff, go through the list every year and compare the rev levels we have to current rev levels available. This process and the results are documented.
Then I give a list of obsolete standards to the chief engineer with my recomendations of what we NEED to update to remain current to committments.
He then makes the decision on what is actually purchased.
Scott, thanks for your input. I think we might do the same thing here. The initial update will probably cost a good chunk of change, but how often do these things update? Will a once a year audit on the standards be enough.

I think things are starting to clear up for me here... There is no easy way, and it will always cost more than the boss is wanting to pay!

:thanks::thanx::thanks::thanx:
 

ScottK

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Scott, thanks for your input. I think we might do the same thing here. The initial update will probably cost a good chunk of change, but how often do these things update? Will a once a year audit on the standards be enough.

I think things are starting to clear up for me here... There is no easy way, and it will always cost more than the boss is wanting to pay!

:thanks::thanx::thanks::thanx:
a once a year audit is acceptable to our ISO registrar and CE Marking notified body.
 

jkuil

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I also use the techstreet website Stijloor recommended. It does have a short lagtime, but is faster than an annual assessment. That also spreads the amount of effort you need to take to keep your products and processes up-to-date with the standards. It is not only bying them, but also implementing them. In some case bying them is the cheapest part.

BTW here is another website that can keep you up-to-date.
 
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