Starting a Small Business

Marc

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I hear a lot of folks (not just here) talk about how those out of work should start a small business. So - Let's have at it.

If you were going to start a small business, what would it be and why?

Example 1: One fellow I knew was in maintenance for years at a metal stamping company. A couple years after becoming the maintenance supervisor he quit and started his own business. He bought a couple of used presses and set them up in a building on his property. He then went out and got 'over flow' from companies which took on contracts they did not have the capacity for, which have equipment problems, or some other capacity issue. It is interesting that most of his work is undocumented outsourcing where he can get dies back to the customer quickly in case a customer would want to visit and see their dies... As we all know, this practice, though very common, is frowned upon (this is not a reflection on him, but rather his customers).

Example 2: One fellow, about 8 years ago, decided to blacktop driveways. He had a hard time holding jobs because, like me (ahem...) he found it difficult to work in what my restaurant friend calls an 'insane' envirionment. He has no staff - He hires people for each job (temps). Last year he netted over US$95,000 (gross was over US$200,000). Most of his work these days is from government - Local road work, but he also has a number of 'big name' accounts such as the local Walmart's parking area. My opinion as to why he succeeded is he is a 'good personality' company. In this case, it's his personality. But I believe if he was put in a position as a CEO in a big company and given the power, that company would become a 'good personality' company.

Example 3: This web site. I'll throw this in because it has become an income source for me, even though that was not the original intention, nor do I have a 'business model' for it. I'd say it's moderately successful, but then again there are web site owners out there makes thousands of $ every week if not every day (last year this site grossed about US$27K). As to why it has 'succeeded' (as in been around a long time), and I'm guessing that to some degree it is 'succeeding' (opinion territory), I can't say. Even sitting here right now typing, it amazes me that the site is what it is and that so many people spend so much time to help out others with their problems. But - I'm thinking about the blacktop business....

So - Small business ideas. What business? Why would it succeed? Startup costs? Any details which you would like to give.
 
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Marc said:
If you were going to start a small business, what would it be and why?.

This topic reminds me of a joke my father used to tell.

A man was visiting the small town where he had grown up after having been away for many years. He was conversing with an old-timer when a memory suddenly surfaced. There had been a civil war cannon in the town square, and one of the local municipal workers, a man named Clyde, used to clean it periodically as part of his normal duties. The visitor asked the old-timer if Clyde still cleaned the cannon. "Nope," replied the old man, "about 15 years ago Clyde bought a cannon and went into business for himself."
 
:topic: This site is marvellous in contrast to my husband's similar attempt for Linux users. There wasn't community support for the questions placed in the forum; he ended up researching and answering most of the questions himself, which became too much of a drain.

I wrote a few articles for the site (he wasn't skilled or comfortable to do much writing), which were viewed thousands of times but we weren't able to keep the hits consistently numerous to attract advertisers. It's too bad, because it looked like a good thing for awhile.
 
If I had more skills at it, I'd so small home improvement jobs. Only get to be a 3-4 person company. If you do a good job, and show up on time (a BIG problem in this industry), dress reasonably and don't cuss like a sailor and act like a slob, you can get all the business you will ever want by word of mouth, and make a decent living doing it.
 
I'm already making and selling jerky. I'm looking at growing the business, and possibly raising marshmallow.
 
Mike S. said:
If I had more skills at it, I'd so small home improvement jobs.
Kevin Mader did that for a while with a fellow and they did quite well. I don't think Kevin is still doing it, but last I heard his partner was very busy and doing quite well.
Jennifer Kirley said:
:topic: This site is marvellous in contrast to my husband's similar attempt for Linux users. There wasn't community support for the questions placed in the forum; he ended up researching and answering most of the questions himself, which became too much of a drain.

I wrote a few articles for the site (he wasn't skilled or comfortable to do much writing), which were viewed thousands of times but we weren't able to keep the hits consistently numerous to attract advertisers. It's too bad, because it looked like a good thing for awhile.
If you look back through some of the old threads here, for quite a while I pulled stuff off of news groups, listserves and other places. But I wasn't really doing it back then as a profit venture. As much as anything else I used this as my 'own personal' database and learning tool, if you will. There were a few early 'regulars' who joined in. That was nice and it was fun.

But even now I don't see this site as terribly popular, but that's my perception of what 'popular' is. If there were typically 400 or more people on the site at any given time I'd be more inclined to define it as 'popular'. It continues to be interesting, I must admit. I do know it's harder than people think to put a web site online, keep it online and to drive traffic to it.
 
Small Business

I'd want something that my wife and I can do together.
We currently run a flea market leather shop that shows some signs of life, though this year hasn't been great so far. I do like the freedom of our little shop. And I like dealing with the customers (most of the time)
We also have a presence on line which is also showing some stirrings.

I am thinking of marketing a series of databases that I have been working on. These would be basic quality databases written in MS access and designed for small businesses to get them up and running quickly. While also allowing them the fexability of modifying the database themselves, or having me do it.

My problem is that the things I like to do the best you don't get paid for. I love to read history. Particularly of the WWII period. One could possibly do research for others but I don't know that would work.

I will put in my 2c on the home improvement thing. A co-worker from years ago went our on his own to purchase "undervalued" homes, fix them up and resell. When I ran into him last year (at my flea market shop) I asked if he was still doing it. He laughed and said he never got started. While he was looking for the first property, he did some handyman work for friends. He's been so busy ever since that he hasn't had time to re-hab a house. All word of mouth and good craftmanship.
 
FWIW

In my opinion, a business (big or small), requires "entrepreneurship" in hiring help and positioning the business for continuity and growth (if there is sufficient market.)

Most one-person "businesses" are really self-employed
  • tradespeople (selling a product made by a third party or selling a hobby product)
  • craftspeople (carpenters, mechanics, plumbers, electricians, machinists, Quality auditors:rolleyes: )
  • or laborers (janitors, landscaping workers, etc.)
Self-employed people can make a very healthy income, but business owners employing multiple people can make enormous incomes AND build equity in a going business which can be sold at a multiple of income, whereas the self-employed person has no "business" to sell other than some equipment and perhaps a repeat customer list, which will barely sell at depreciated value.

Many people are suited to be "self-employed" - only a few have the temperament and courage to take on the responsibility of creating an organization to provide income and work for multiple people on a steady basis.
 
For quite a few years I've had a side business building and selling computers. I used to make some fairly good money, but the market is too saturated now - it's tough to make it worth the time. I still do an occasional upgrade or something, but it's just from word-of-mouth by friends who know I can do it. The value I get from it now is mainly the tax advantage I get for business use of my home.

As Wes implied, this type of business is really just trading time for $$. To make more income requires more time. To be a really successful business owner, my business would have to provide more and more income while requiring less and less of my time...
 
Interesting thread. I've always said that I would like to come up with a good idea to create a business that employs a few people. I think quality management types make good leaders because we know how to think in terms of "processes" and "systems". Many of us are also pretty good at keeping everyone happy. Comes from all those years of customers yelling at us, and management expecting a lot, and not always providing the resources!

I did look into franchising about a year ago. Specifically from the company Mad Science, based on Canada. Pretty cool product for educating young kids about science, but BIG start-up costs.

If anyone has a brilliant idea, and needs a good people person with all that processes and systems background, let me know!

--Jodi
 
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