Starting an ISO 17025 Accredited Laboratory

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BradM

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#13
wow thanks a lot Harry!
Harry is an awesome guy. :agree1: He took care of it before I could log back on.

Also, there is a link to one of the gap analysis in post #3 in this thread, if that helps.:agree1:

I think they may be one version older than the current 9001 and maybe even the 17025, but should be close enough to assist.
 
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Mandell

#14
Price estimate looks low by 50% in my experience.

The largest most jarring difference in 17025 vs 9001 is the auditor. 17025 auditors are experts in the area they audit (A2LA is in any event) and they rarely focus on the paperwork for much of the audit. They will take your procedures and your personnel and in your lab environment ask that the procedures be performed in front of them. As I said, they are subject experts and know what they are looking at.

This is not to say your paperwork doesn't have to be in order, it of course does and if it isn't expect to be worked over pretty thoroughly. But unlike 9001 auditors, they will walk onto your production floor, and render judgment on your product.
 
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socim

#15
Thanks Mandell for this very informative matter. We will cover this topic during the training to let the employees know about it and be aware of it. Thanks a lot again!:)
 

Hershal

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#16
Socim,

Some thoughts.

First, with respect to an accrediting body (AB). If you are in the US, you should NOT sign with any of the six recognized ABs until you get quotes from all six, and that means talk to them, ask technical question, present typical technical issues you encounter to them. Talk to the highest level of management you can. Then and ONLY then should you decide on your AB.

BTW, go though the listings and select a reasonable sample of the AB's current accreditations, call them and ask about the service they get, because that is what you will get.

Now, you need to have certain things nailed down no matter which you select.

Procedures must be validated. Military procedures (older are available through GIDEP) are considered validated.

People must be trained and that must be documented.

Uncertatinties for all types of calibrations must be documented, and for testing you should do the same.

PT/ILC needs to be complete if available.

These are the most basic things to consider. During your discussions with ABs then comfort - though nontangible - may or may not be a consideration.

Hope this helps.
 
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