Stepping Over To The Dark Side

PaulJSmith

(Former) Quality Jerk
It's finally happening to me. I've seen many of my Quality peers over the years find their way back over to Production. I've frequently wondered how that could happen. But, now I "get it."

I've been working as a Quality Manager for the past six years at a company that offered me at the time an irresistible opportunity to improve their QMS. It was an effort started by the previous QM, but abandoned. He offered me some advice at which I snickered at the time, but that I slowly came to realize was no simple parting shot; that my biggest challenge would be the president of the company. He was 100% correct. Try as I might, I could not convert him. He got better for awhile, then recently started another deep dive into terrible decision making that placed product quality and customer satisfaction dead last on his list of priorities. "It's fine, just get it out the door so we can invoice for it" became the default mantra. Once he started asking me to do unethical things (deliberately incorrect documentation), it was time to go.

I felt like a failure. I've been a Quality Jerk for almost 25 years, 10 as a manager, and I've never had to deal with someone like this. This is the reason I stopped coming to The Cove for several years (long enough to get caught in Marc's pruning). I started to question my effectiveness as a Quality Manager. From conversations with some industry peers and local friends, it became evident that I was indeed on the right path, just with the wrong leadership. So, time to move on. After accepting an offer from another company, I submitted my resignation last week. I cannot be a part of such questionable business practices.

The new position will be Production Manager for a contract electronics manufacturer. I've spent about 20 years in electronics in the past, so going back is a comfortable move. And, I finally understand why so many moved in that direction, when I started to think I would be better off driving quality from the production side, rather than constantly fighting against production managers who care little about quality. As I said, now I get it.

I'm hoping to not be such a stranger here, as this is still one of the greatest wealth of information sites on the internet. Thanks for keeping me on the right path.
 

ChrisM

Quite Involved in Discussions
Unfortunately, good quality starts with commitment from the top. If there is no wish or support for top quality and you are constantly being over-ridden, contradicted and "shot down" from on high, then if you have a passion for quality, it is time to get out. You have my commiserations and sympathies. If your former employer was registered to, say, ISO9001, you may wish to consider contacting their Certification Body expressing your concerns and reasons for leaving, suggesting that they look into some appropriate areas on their next surveillance visits.

If customer satisfaction is now very low on the list of their priorities, it won't be long before word gets round. Unless they have a unique product or a very large number of customers, it won't be long before they will start to suffer significantly.
 

John Broomfield

Leader
Super Moderator
Paul,

It’s refreshing to see someone like you will directly be responsible for production quality.

Quality professionals are well advised to keep the responsibility for quality where it belongs: with the people required to do quality work. Too often are we inclined to take it away instead of focusing on the system that is meant to help the leaders and workers to understand and fulfill requirements.

Congratulations,

John
 

Randy

Super Moderator
Too bad manufacturing quality can't go down the same pathway I had to follow in aviation maintenance quality (rotary and some fixed wing), you sign the aircraft off then you're on the test flights, up front in the left or right seat (a couple times in the front or back seat). Quality takes on a different perspective when you have to strap the product to your fanny for the "validation" checks.
 

Miner

Forum Moderator
Leader
Admin
It's only going to the dark side if you do what a former boss did. Very early in my career, my quality manager took a transfer to another nearby facility changing roles from quality manager to production manager. So far, so good. Unfortunately, he then used all of his knowledge about quality to circumvent the controls in place in order to ship as much product as possible regardless of the quality.

That is truly going to the dark side.
 

Zero_yield

"You can observe a lot by just watching."
Too bad manufacturing quality can't go down the same pathway I had to follow in aviation maintenance quality (rotary and some fixed wing), you sign the aircraft off then you're on the test flights, up front in the left or right seat (a couple times in the front or back seat). Quality takes on a different perspective when you have to strap the product to your fanny for the "validation" checks.

I love this. In the (implantable) med dev company I work for, the phrase is always "Would you want this your body / [X family member]'s body?" My mom actually has our product implanted, as do several employees.
 

Randy

Super Moderator
I love this. In the (implantable) med dev company I work for, the phrase is always "Would you want this your body / [X family member]'s body?" My mom actually has our product implanted, as do several employees.
Exactly the point, when you make quality personal, quality will get more attention.

In my story, everyone of us in the Quality Dept as all or the mechanics & techs had crewed aircraft (mainly rotary wing) and quite of few of us had pranged a couple times in our previous careers (one or 2 actually from bad maintenance errors) so we took what we did and what we gave our customers personal. Our goal was that everyone that went out came home, with nothing happening because we screwed up.....In my 12 years with Lockheed we didn't have a single incident related to maintenance and we had one of the heaviest flying programs and dangerous flying areas in the US Army, Ft Irwin California, in the Mojave Desert. Not only did we have our fleet (about 30 Hueys, 6 Blackhawks, 8-10 OH-58's and a U-21) we took care of nearly everyone else's type aircraft that either came in for training and needed emergency maintenance within our capability (included BLM, Border Patrol and other military branches).

Quality was personal. This is one of the birds we took care of and I flew on regularly. Stepping Over To The Dark Side
 
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