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Strategic Planning and Quality Management System Integration

Randy

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#11
Re: Strategic Planning

To get me started, were they generally pro strategic planning, against, or ?.
They set a Strategic goal to be #1 in the world with automotive manufacturing and developed the Strategic plan to do so. In 1945 Toyota had been bombed nearly back to the Stone-Age....where is Toyota now?

They didn't plan next-week, next-quarter, next-year, they planned 10 yrs, 20 years, 50 years.........

So, if I am reading the responses correctly so far your responses confirm my belief. It is important that strategic planning become part of the overall business management system.
There is an old saying "Fail to plan? Then plan to fail"
 
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Falco

#12
Re: Strategic Planning

I would add that a very disciplined no nonsense approach led to the success of Toyota's plan. This could change the point of this discusion. None the less, what I have gathered thus far is that Strategy should include a framework. The framework then supports and drives the strategy. Committment will determine success.
 

Randy

Super Moderator
#13
Re: Strategic Planning

Sound's like you're trying to either re-invent the wheel or circumvent common sense in business . Just look at the Introduction to ISO 9001:2008

Introduction
0.1 General

The adoption of a quality management system should be a strategic decision of an organization.


That says it right there. Problem is, many companies think Strategic is tomorrow or short term, and that's when they start becoming a loser.
 
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Falco

#14
Re: Strategic Planning

That's funny Randy, I have it right in front of me and am working it into my argument to use the requirements of the standard as our framework instead of reinventing the wheel. It is very reassuring to know that I am on the right track.
 

Randy

Super Moderator
#15
Re: Strategic Planning

Absolutely...........Strategic Planning is not new.......Ceasar used it in Gaul and Britain, we used it in the Pacific in the 1940's, NASA used it to get to the moon, I used it to get my wife:lol:
 
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Falco

#16
Re: Strategic Planning

Absolutely...........Strategic Planning is not new.......Ceasar used it in Gaul and Britain, we used it in the Pacific in the 1940's, NASA used it to get to the moon, I used it to get my wife:lol:
So how is that whole continual improvement thing working out with the wife????? Sorry. Could not resist. :eek:
 
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ab001

#17
Re: Strategic Planning

That's funny Randy, I have it right in front of me and am working it into my argument to use the requirements of the standard as our framework instead of reinventing the wheel. It is very reassuring to know that I am on the right track.
what about argueing that "quality" is describing the "management system" not the other way round

ie Management System Quality
 
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Falco

#18
Re: Strategic Planning

Yup, thats why I eluded to the chicken or the egg in an earlier post. It really is a mindset to establish. Do you use the management system to achieve quality or the quality system to achive business? Not sure that is really matters as long as we achieve the objectives?
 
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JaneB

#19
Re: Strategic Planning

In order to be a successful business, you must have a strategic plan. That strategic plan must support the vision and mission of the organization. The vision, mission and strategic plan must be supported by quality policy and objectives. In short, the strategic planning exercise is a part of the QMS.

One must avoid top management's desire to put the ISO requirements on QA and allow them to totally disengage. If top management is not driving the QMS, you should look for a new employer!
Excellent advice, although personally I might try to change things first, before seeking alternative employment (especially right now).

The example you mentioned is exactly wha is happening, the business management is being dropped in the lap of QA while top management works on the assembly line and fights fires.
Well, that isn't a quality management system, and it sure as hell doesn't reflect any kind of strategic planning!

we have had much difficulty in achieveing and maintaining compliance with ISO 9001-2000. We are certified but struggling.
Without having some kind of strategic plan - and then actually using that plan to manage the business (not just dumping it on the shelf and racing off to fight more fires), you will continue to struggle. I would have a really good look at the PDSA /PDCA cycle (Plan, Do, Study, Act) because that's an essential improvement tool underlying the Standard, and sounds like something that isn't understood/only poorly, and not actually applied.

... My take is, and guide me if I am off base, that the QMS criteria should serve as a guideline during strategic planning. Use it like a gap analysis to determine the next strategies.
Um... not quite sure what you mean by 'QMS criteria to serve as a guideline?'

Yup, thats why I eluded to the chicken or the egg in an earlier post. It really is a mindset to establish. Do you use the management system to achieve quality or the quality system to achive business? Not sure that is really matters as long as we achieve the objectives?
Planning comes first. You plan for what you want to achieve. The 'management system' and the 'quality system' are NOT separate things: it's a quality management system you are aiming for & required to have, not a 'management "system"' with a bit of QA tacked on the side.
 
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