Supplier Assessment Questionnaire for Second-Party Audits

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Would it be acceptable to use a supplier assessment questionnaire as a means for a second-part audit? I realize it is not the same thing. Resources are tight and time is even tighter-what are your thoughts on using a questionnaire fo the suppliers QMS for use as a second-part audit? Thank you:thanx:
 
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Would it be acceptable to use a supplier assessment questionnaire as a means for a second-part audit? I realize it is not the same thing. Resources are tight and time is even tighter-what are your thoughts on using a questionnaire fo the suppliers QMS for use as a second-part audit? Thank you:thanx:
No. As you said, they are two different things. Second party auditors need the competencies defined in 7.2.4 - why would they need these if the audit was done in a questionnaire? Also, let's look at 8.4.2.4.1.
IATF 16949 clause 8.4.2.4.1 said:
If the scope of the second-party audit is to assess the supplier's quality management system, then the approach shall be consistent with the automotive process approach.
The automotive process approach is not consistent with a questionnaire.
 

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Agree. But the standard seems to allow you to prioritize and determine the criteria of who, what, when for 2nd party audits. Keep it narrow, but reasonable. That can help you deal with your resource issues. Good luck.
 
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