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Supplier's remote site is not on their ISO 9001 Certificate

#1
Our supplier sent to us his 9001 certificate, in which there is written only the head qurter and not the remote site.
Do you know if it was correct that in the certificate iso 9001 of the multi-sites company, there wasn't the remote sites (which have the same VAT of the head quarter) ?
Thanks a lot for your reply
Best regards
Alberto
 
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#2
Re: Question about remote site

According to the requirements of ISO 17021, the certificate (including it's appendices/attachments) must clearly identify the sites included in the scope of certification. So, if the certificate does not list the remote site, it is safe to assume that they are not under the certification program by the registrar.
 

John Broomfield

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#3
Our supplier sent to us his 9001 certificate, in which there is written only the head qurter and not the remote site.
Do you know if it was correct that in the certificate iso 9001 of the multi-sites company, there wasn't the remote sites (which have the same VAT of the head quarter) ?
Thanks a lot for your reply
Best regards
Alberto
Alberto,

You are to be congratulated for checking the validity of your supplier's certificate.

More than a few suppliers find that no one checks.

John
 

normzone

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#4
I will add my congratulations to your following up on the details.

I know of an outfit claiming AS9100 certification on their web page. A link to their cert is nowhere to be found on the page, and they do not mention the name of a certifying body.

I know these guys - consulted for them a few years ago. If they're AS9100 I'll eat my hat.
 

somashekar

Staff member
Super Moderator
#5
Our supplier sent to us his 9001 certificate, in which there is written only the head qurter and not the remote site.
Do you know if it was correct that in the certificate iso 9001 of the multi-sites company, there wasn't the remote sites (which have the same VAT of the head quarter) ?
Thanks a lot for your reply
Best regards
Alberto
Supplier's remote site is not on their ISO9001 certificate because, they have not set up their certification scheme in that way. Multi-site supplier company perhaps as you see need not be the supplier's certification scheme. They may still be good in their outsource process controls exercised over the sites from the head quarter. The VAT scheme may follow different understanding and need not be the same matching to certification scheme.
 

normzone

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#6
Oh.

The supplier's sub-site is treated as a subcontractor, and controlled under the certified organization's supplier management process? I can see that being acceptable, as long as it stands up to auditing.
 

Helmut Jilling

Auditor / Consultant
#7
It depends on what processes the remote location performs for the certified site. You cannot just ignore a support location if it is a necessary part of the QMS - i.e.: Design, Engineering, Sales...etc. If it is a purchased product or sub-component, that might be able to be handled as a purchased item.
 
#8
Thanks a lot for the support!!
We'll go more deep on it, we'll contact the certification company in order to have the confirmation of the certification of the remote site.
Best regards
Alberto
 
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