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Marc,
Maybe it's just me but lately I seem to be seeing a noticeable increase in (good quality) posts by "newbies" (single and low double digit post counts) to the Cove in some of the more active forums like TS16949. Do you have any stats or am I just imagining a trend?
-Icy
 
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Marc,
Maybe it's just me but lately I seem to be seeing a noticeable increase in (good quality) posts by "newbies" (single and low double digit post counts) to the Cove in some of the more active forums like TS16949. Do you have any stats or am I just imagining a trend?
-Icy
Icy, I have been noticing the same thing, seems like recently we have a lot more inputs, and good ones at that.This is truly a world class professional forum. What a great testement to Marc's creation.
 
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Icy, I have been noticing the same thing, seems like recently we have a lot more inputs, and good ones at that.This is truly a world class professional forum. What a great testement to Marc's creation.
Not that I don't value and respect the opinions of my regular cadre of inputs like you, Bill P., Steel, Wes, Brad, Jim, hjilling, etc. with the monster post counts, but lately there seems to be a wider representation of opinion, especially from the "new guys". Kind of like meeting some new people that you like in your favorite watering hole where all your old friends hang out.
-Icy
 

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FWIW:
I also note the good replies and often determine I have nothing new or better to add - very pleasant for me to see the new generation taking over the reins - I don't feel the pressure to jump in and be the "answer guy" I used to feel when a thread seemed to be wallowing in good wishes, but no workable solutions.
 
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Marc,
Maybe it's just me but lately I seem to be seeing a noticeable increase in (good quality) posts by "newbies" (single and low double digit post counts) to the Cove in some of the more active forums like TS16949. Do you have any stats or am I just imagining a trend?
-Icy
If you are imagining it, then so am I.

FWIW:
I also note the good replies and often determine I have nothing new or better to add - very pleasant for me to see the new generation taking over the reins - I don't feel the pressure to jump in and be the "answer guy" I used to feel when a thread seemed to be wallowing in good wishes, but no workable solutions.
I hear you. I still read most threads, but post less than I used to. The main reason is that I have been putting in quite a bit of overtime in the last year, and posting takes more time than reading...., However, I'm also often beaten to the punch by people with similar views. :agree1:

/Claes
 

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Another good month but as a matter of interest, what is the position of your income from Google AdSense? Any improvement?
Something happened on 2 July. At least for 8 days now there has been a slight improvement. Sort term. We'll see what happens over the next couple of months.

Marc,
Maybe it's just me but lately I seem to be seeing a noticeable increase in (good quality) posts by "newbies" (single and low double digit post counts) to the Cove in some of the more active forums like TS16949. Do you have any stats or am I just imagining a trend?
-Icy
I don't have any stats other than what you see posted in this thread and on the forum home page. There does appear to be an increase, but I'm not sure the numbers show it yet.
 
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I hear you. I still read most threads, but post less than I used to. The main reason is that I have been putting in quite a bit of overtime in the last year, and posting takes more time than reading...., However, I'm also often beaten to the punch by people with similar views. :agree1:/Claes
I'm glad I'm not alone. Speaking of monster post counts, I knew I would leave someone out when I started typing names. Sorry, Claes. At least you gave me an excuse in that you haven't been posting as much lately.
Something happened on 2 July. At least for 8 days now there has been a slight improvement. Sort term. We'll see what happens over the next couple of months. I don't have any stats other than what you see posted in this thread and on the forum home page. There does appear to be an increase, but I'm not sure the numbers show it yet.
I wonder if your site got reviewed or posted somewhere that is suddenly bringing in a wave of people from another significant forum or blog? Once again, I'm glad that others are seeing the same refreshing trend.
 

Marc

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I wonder if your site got reviewed or posted somewhere that is suddenly bringing in a wave of people from another significant forum or blog? Once again, I'm glad that others are seeing the same refreshing trend.
I'm not looking at raw traffic per se, but most traffic comes from Google. I of course watch raw traffic (which is what I post here, so you can see the flux from month to month in this thread), but the cents per click (which I'm not allowed to reveal) is what went way down. Why it did is a matter of guessing because Google's algorithms are not public. I don't even know what any specific ad pays. All I get is an average. All I know is it involves bidding in AdWords. But, there are things like 'smart pricing' that I don't fully understand.

I do know in June Google killed off thousands of 'MFA' (made for adsense) sites and arbitrage sites (just Google "adsense arbitrage site") because all they were were 'non-information' sites people made (such as you do a search and come up with a page/site which has little or no significant content, or is just a site with a listing sorta like another search page). One guy who did arbitrage put up a photo in a forum last winter of a 1 month check from adsense for over US$150,000! I'm sure the guy has a lot of sites and has a fair amount of overhead, but that's a lot of cash. There has been a lot of speculation on what would happen, one of which was payout would rise for 'legitimate' sites as 'garbage' sites would be significantly (supposedly) reduced. But again, it's all speculation. The best I can say is that on 2 July something changed. But again - This is a very short term observation, the change is not terribly large (gained back about 15 to 20% of the 40% down trend) so what appears to be a change might just be a short term aberration. The decline started last December - January and seemed to stabilize at the low by April.

Having a site which for all intents and purposes depends upon advertising as the Cove does is risky, and it's totally a guessing game. To be honest I don't monitor what's happening much any more in the web site owner/admin forums I sometimes visit because it's almost like going to a precious metals forum. I own a lot of gold coins. Right now the dollar is dropping significantly but gold is not going up 'as expected', so you have a lot of people guessing why it isn't. No one knows, but everyone has a theory.

Same with Google. Even when they redo search ranking algorithms everyone throws in their 2 cents about what changed and why, but it's all guesses. Some sites drop out of Google's index completely. Other sites get a big gain in rankings. Some sites rankings don't change at all. So everyone sits around and guesses why. There is some flux, but usually Elsmar.com stays about the same, probably in part because it's been on the internet for so long.

Pay per click is a weird game. Some say AdSense (and other online advertising in general) is doomed to eventual failure. Some say companies are becoming 'discouraged' by poor follow through (people click but don't buy) and bidding less. Some say companies are becoming discouraged by click fraud and dropping out or bidding less or dropping their internet advertising budget.

So - Who knows. I do want to put in my standard disclaimer - Please, No one should click on an advertisement unless they really are interested in the product. Clicking ads to 'help me out' could get my account canceled for click fraud, and if that happens it is rare that a company (or in my case a person) is reinstated. If I loose AdSense, there is no way I could keep the site online. A few people do donate every month, and there are a couple of extra ads by companies (right now only 2), but there just isn't the revenue there to pay to keep it online.
 
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Umang Vidyarthi

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Dear Marc
I am a newcomer on the cove,and I really wonder as to how I missed this remarkable sight for soo.o...o long!My first encounter with it was when I noticed elsmar.com in the back ground of a PPAP document,went straight there,and WOW,this is what I got out of the blue.I was immediately hooked and now I'm eddicted!!

A fantastic creation and fruit of your devoted exceptional effort to bring together 'The Best Brains' in the field,to share their rich experience with one and all,just to selflessly help others!

One thing really bites me,there must be a huge-lot-more people,like me who are not here for the simple reason;they haven't heard of this wonderful sight.If every cover introduces this site to 'eight' persons,out of those 'four' visit the cove, then you get a chain of 1+4+16+64+256+512+1024...........n (leaving n to your imagination).This is the principle of MLM(multi-level-marketing),where the community grows in leaps and bounds.Once the number of users grow,
then the number of contributors will increase automatically,to keep the cove afloat.

Marc,you had the vision to start this wonderful phenomenon,now it is the duty of this community as a whole,to keep it functional.

Thanks again
Umang :thanx:
 

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By all means, tell your friends about the Cove!
 
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