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The Next version of ISO 9001 (2008 version) - Any news?

Sidney Vianna

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I decided to go ahead and purchase the ISO 9001:2008 DIS document. Being an ASQ member, I thought of buying it via ASQ, for US$50.00, instead of shelling 64 CHF to Geneva. Well.....much to my surprise, ASQ does not allow the purchaser of the document to print it:mg:. Actually, the terms you are required to concur with are mind boggling <see below>. Too much dysfunction for me. ISO allows me to print one copy of the document, at least. So a fool parts with 64 CHF....

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Re: The Next version of ISO 9001 - Any news?

I decided to go ahead and purchase the ISO 9001:2008 DIS document. Being an ASQ member, I thought of buying it via ASQ, for US$50.00, instead of shelling 64 CHF to Geneva. Well.....much to my surprise, ASQ does not allow the purchaser of the document to print it:mg:. Actually, the terms you are required to concur with are mind boggling <see below>. Too much dysfunction for me. ISO allows me to print one copy of the document, at least. So a fool parts with 64 CHF....
Neither concurrent use on two or more computers nor use in a local area network or other network is permitted.
Jeez, not only can you not print it, you can't allow access to it over a network, even if it's not printed.
 

Marc

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Re: The Next version of ISO 9001 - Any news?

Like DRM, these restrictions will just lead people to crack it and pass it around for free.
 

Marc

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Re: The Next version of ISO 9001 - Any news?

I got bit once by Standards Australia about 4 or 5 years ago. They had the file locked to only allow 1 print. Paper jammed so I didn't even get one copy printed. These days if I need a standard I just buy a paper copy, cut off the binding and scan it into a pdf and that's it.
 

Jim Wynne

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Re: The Next version of ISO 9001 - Any news?

That requires me reading the DIS document. My lawyer is still reviewing the fine print of the agreement I had to sign before downloading the document to advise me if am allowed to read the DIS.
This might be the part you're looking for:
You acknowledge that you are not allowed to read the document, make other parties aware of its existence, or engage in mentation/ideation, voluntary or otherwise, with regard to its existence.
:mg::tg:
 

Paul Simpson

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I got bit once by Standards Australia about 4 or 5 years ago. They had the file locked to only allow 1 print. Paper jammed so I didn't even get one copy printed. These days if I need a standard I just buy a paper copy, cut off the binding and scan it into a pdf and that's it.
Tsk, tsk, Marc. A self confessed copyright infringer! :mg:
 

Sidney Vianna

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:(Shish, it is sad when you have to sign your life away to download an international standard, after PAYING for it. A document which was developed by "volunteers", from all over the Globe. If the issue of intellectual property over a standard developed by a consensus method ever gets tried in an international court, I feel sorry for the judge. No wonder the ISO documents state:
Attention is drawn to the possibility that some of the elements of this document may be the subject of patent rights. ISO shall not be held responsible for identifying any or all such patent rights.
 
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