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The Next version of ISO 9001 (2008 version) - Any news?

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Marc said:
I got bit once by Standards Australia about 4 or 5 years ago. They had the file locked to only allow 1 print. Paper jammed so I didn't even get one copy printed.
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One way to avoid those mechanical snafus is to "print" a PDF copy. You can do this with freeware such as PrimoPDF which installs (like Adobe Distiller) as a printer. You hit "Print," select PrimoPDF as the printer, and it creates a PDF document.
 
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Paul Simpson said:
Tsk, tsk, Marc. A self confessed copyright infringer! :mg:
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With the way copyright laws and their interpretations are changing, I could be. I was reading, I can't remember where or who, that they wanted to outlaw copying a song from say a CD to an iPod or from a computer to an iPod (or other player) so you'd have to pay for the song for each device you want to play it on.

I'm still in the age of 'If I bought it, I can make a copy for myself' whether it be paper, data file or whatever.
 
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If one wants to see what “copyright infringer” related to standards is, should come here!
But as lost of folks have been writing here in the Cove, the only way to avoid that is to make the generic standards like ISO 9001 or ISO 14001, free!
There’s a limit to price they cost, and the actual price, will just make them copied illegally everywhere!
 
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OK guys, I hope you will bear with me on this but I have just obtained a copy of the DIS and tried to 'spot the difference' with CD1 - why can't they highlight the changes again?:confused: I may have missed some so please let me know if you see any others.

Here are the changes I can see between CD1 and the DIS:

4.1 Note 2 amended and note 3 added
6.4 Note amended
7.2.1 'as needed' changed to 'considered necessary'
7.3.3 Note amended
7.5.2 Notes 1 & 2 removed
7.6 Notes 1& 3 have been removed
8.2.1 The word indicators has gone back to measurement & a note has been added
8.2.2 Last para. the word correction has been added
8.2.4 Note removed
8.5.2f & 8.5.3e The word effectiveness has been removed

I am currently trying to prepare a matrix for the changes between 2000 and the DIS which I will post as soon as it is done.
 
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Colpart said:
OK guys, I hope you will bear with me on this but I have just obtained a copy of the DIS and tried to 'spot the difference' with CD1 - why can't they highlight the changes again?:confused: I may have missed some so please let me know if you see any others.

Here are the changes I can see between CD1 and the DIS:

4.1 Note 2 amended and note 3 added
6.4 Note amended
7.2.1 'as needed' changed to 'considered necessary'
7.3.3 Note amended
7.5.2 Notes 1 & 2 removed
7.6 Notes 1& 3 have been removed
8.2.1 The word indicators has gone back to measurement & a note has been added
8.2.2 Last para. the word correction has been added
8.2.4 Note removed
8.5.2f & 8.5.3e The word effectiveness has been removed

I am currently trying to prepare a matrix for the changes between 2000 and the DIS which I will post as soon as it is done.
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I appreciate the effort, but unless the changes are substantive, why not wait until they are closer to complete?
 
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I know that the changes are small but I am being asked by a number of people about the changes and the impact they are likely to have so I thought I would do the analysis.

It frustrates me that the changes are so small - especially from CD1 to DIS as I think they are missing an opportunity to make the change worthwhile.
 
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Colpart,

Probably this will not happen this time, but remember that in 2000 version the changes between DIS version and the FDIS of the Standard were significant.
This work of yours could be just for temporary use...
:(

AV
 
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Don't loose sight of the aspect that at least there is some information on the direction being taken. I do see value in tracking changes. There are many who are working on implementations right now who will be affected by any changes.

I was working with companies back before the 2000 change and we took the known changes into account well before the changes were finalized. Doing that saved us a lot of time and trouble.

Colpart's information is more valuable that you might think.
 
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