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The Next version of ISO 9001 (2008 version) - Any news?

Sidney Vianna

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Randy said:
If the changes are so minor why not do what was done for 14001 and have a short transition, just get it done. Wham, bam, thank you mam.
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Me too would have voted for an 18-month transition, but since there are "no changes" to the standard (just clarifications), for all practical purposes, it does not make any difference if your supplier is certified to the 3rd or 4th Editions of ISO 9001....
 
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I just think it's gonna turn into a cross between "mating elephants, a goat ropin', and greased pig catching":lol:
 
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I've just been asked to comment on the 3 year transition and another requirement in the transition - IAF are saying that CBs cannot reissue certificates before they have had a visit as
some less than reputable Certification Bodies might issue certificates without any audit in order to gain unfair commercial advantage and erode confidence in accredited certification.
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So despite the general understanding that there are no changes some CB is planning to make a pot of money by reissuing all their certificates before anyone else. :confused:
 
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So despite the general understanding that there are no changes some CB is planning to make a pot of money by reissuing all their certificates before anyone else. :confused:
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The proposed IAF resolution is that no certificate to ISO 9001:2008 should be issued (for currently certified organizations) before the CB performs either a surveillance or re-certification audit. The IAF does not want CB's issuing an 9001:2008 certificates "willy-nilly". Because that could erode the confidence in the accredited certification process.....
 
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Why? :confused:

You have an accredited certification .... you change the standard to such a small extent that people are pretty much unanimous that an ISO 9001.2000 certification is going to comply with ISO 9001.2008 - so why not just reissue certificates? :confused:

I promise not to have any less confidence in the accreditation bodies' ability to manage the certification industry. ;)
 
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Why?
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Come on Paul. Auditors must assess extremely carefully if the organizations are complying with the new requirements. It will take time. I'll give you an example.

How long do you think it will take you to verify if an organization that is currently required to comply with
ISO9001:2000 said:
Top management shall appoint a member of management who, irrespective of other responsibilities, shall have responsibility and authority that includes
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will later be required to comply with​
ISO9001:2008 said:
Top management shall appoint a member of the organization’s management who, irrespective of other responsibilities, shall have responsibility and authority that includes.

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It will take weeks....

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Just wonder why there are not significant changes.

I think if some of the TS requirements were adopted may be good for companies to improve to a higher level.

Without significant changes since 2000, will there be some significant changes in the next revision after 2008?

Could it be due to what Andy commented? :eek:
 
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