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The Next version of ISO 9001 (2008 version) - Any news?

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Re: The Next version of ISO 9001 - Management Rep as Management

From what I've seen of the Draft for 9001:2008, it seems that there is a change where the Management Rep has to be Management...
I agree with Sidney that there is no real change in the requirements. The management rep is already required to be a member of management in the current version. The change in the draft now just says organization's management.
 
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Re: The Next version of ISO 9001 - Management Rep as Management

From what I've seen of the Draft for 9001:2008, it seems that there is a change where the Management Rep has to be Management. I am in a shop where the Senior QA guy is Mgt Rep because Management is one guy. How can this be made to work? Is the intent that in a small shop where there is a President and all the rest, no Mgt Rep can be appointed and the President has to assume responsibility for the QMS (of course, he did anyway). But what happens in all those shops where there is currently a Mgt Rep that is not Management? It seems to complicate things. Any comments on the intent of this change and how it might play out in terms of interpretation/application?:rolleyes:
In a small shop (organization), where there are no other managers, the top person should be the Management Representative. The reason for this requirement is that you need someone with decision making authority rather than a good willing individual.

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http://www.iso.org/iso/pressrelease.htm?refid=Ref1152

ISO (International Organization for Standardization) and the IAF (International Accreditation Forum) have agreed on an implementation plan to ensure a smooth transition of accredited certification to ISO 9001:2008, the latest version of the world's most widely used standard for quality management systems (QMS). The details of the plan are given in the joint communiqué by the two organizations which appears below.
Like all of ISO's more than 17 000 standards, ISO 9001 is periodically reviewed to ensure that it is maintained at the state of the art and a decision taken to confirm, withdraw or revise the document.
ISO 9001:2008, which is due to be published before the end of the year, will replace the year 2000 version of the standard which is implemented by both business and public sector organizations in 170 countries. Although certification is not a requirement of the standard, the QMS of about one million organizations have been audited and certified by independent certification bodies (also known in some countries as registration bodies) to ISO 9001:2000.
ISO 9001 certification is frequently used in both private and public sectors to increase confidence in the products and services provided by certified organizations, between partners in business-to-business relations, in the selection of suppliers in supply chains and in the right to tender for procurement contracts.
ISO is the developer and publisher of ISO 9001, but does not itself carry out auditing and certification. These services are performed independently of ISO by certification bodies. ISO does not control such bodies, but does develop voluntary International Standards to encourage good practice in their activities on a worldwide basis. For example, ISO/IEC 17021:2006 specifies the requirements for bodies providing auditing and certification of management systems.
Certification bodies that wish to provide further confidence in their services may apply to be "accredited" as competent by an IAF recognized national accreditation body. ISO/IEC 17011:2004 specifies the requirements for carrying out such accreditation. IAF is an international association whose membership includes the national accreditation bodies of 49 economies.
ISO technical committee ISO/TC 176, Quality management and quality assurance, which is responsible for the ISO 9000 family of standards, is preparing a number of support documents explaining what the differences are between ISO 9001:2008 and the year 2000 version, why and what they mean for users. Once approved, these documents will be posted on the ISO Web site – probably in October 2008.

Joint IAF-ISO communiqué



Implementation of accredited certification to ISO 9001:2008


ISO (International Organization for Standardization) and the IAF (International Accreditation Forum) have agreed an implementation plan to ensure a smooth migration of accredited certification to ISO 9001:2008, after consultation with international groupings representing quality system or auditor certification bodies, and industry users of ISO 9001 certification services.

ISO 9001:2008 does not contain any new requirements


They have recognized that ISO 9001:2008 introduces no new requirements. ISO 9001:2008 only introduces clarifications to the existing requirements of ISO 9001:2000 based on eight years of experience of implementing the standard world wide with about one million certificates issued in 170 countries to date. It also introduces changes intended to improve consistency with ISO14001:2004
The agreed implementation plan in relation to accredited certification is therefore the following:

Accredited certification to the ISO 9001:2008 shall not be granted until the publication of ISO 9001:2008 as an International Standard.


Certification of conformity to ISO 9001:2008 and/or national equivalents shall only be issued after official publication of ISO 9001:2008 (which should take place before the end of 2008) and after a routine surveillance or recertification audit against ISO 9001:2008.

Validity of certifications to ISO 9001:2000


One year after publication of ISO 9001:2008 all accredited certifications issued (new certifications or recertifications) shall be to ISO 9001:2008.
Twenty four months after publication by ISO of ISO 9001:2008, any existing certification issued to ISO 9001:2000 shall not be valid.
 
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FDIS ISO 9001:2008 is now out for ballot. The US TAG is voting on the US' position.
 
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Sidney Vianna

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FDIS ISO 9001:2008 is not out for ballot. The US TAG is voting on the US' position.
So, are you saying that, even though the ISO website lists the document in stage 50.20 which indicates out for ballot, they are lying? Or is this just another case of outdated information such as the the one you stated at
CB's have 3 years to allow a client to transition.
From today's press release we know that the transition of existing certificates must happen within 2 years from the date of release of ISO 9001:2008.
 

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I got a copy of the FDIS today...
Me too. And the cover page states:
Voting begins on:
2008-08-07

Voting terminates on:
2008-10-07
Have not had a chance to digest it yet. But the FDIS annex B contains a table with the "changes" between the 3[sup]rd[/sup] and 4[sup]th[/sup] editions of ISO 9001.
 
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I hope the FDIS can be downloaded for free like what NSAI did for ISO 9001:2008 DIS.

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