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So, how is this possible when at ASQ they say version CD2 is going to be released in September and the standard is going to be published only on mid 2009?
Is ISO working harder and fast than they predicted?
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António Vieira said:
Is ISO working harder and fast than they predicted?
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That is unlikely. Maybe the TC176 just came to their senses that the "changes" to ISO 9001 are so minuscule that they really don't need prolonged deliberations. Who knows? There might be some common sense at work...

On a related note, I see that 9004:2009 status is 30.92, CD referred back to Working Group.
 
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Publication target date for ISO 9001: 2008-10-31
Publication target date for ISO 9004: 2009-08-31
Interesting. Is it possible that ISO 9001 will be published 1 year earlier then ISO 9004?
 
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Peters said:
Is it possible that ISO 9001 will be published 1 year earlier then ISO 9004?
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Yes. Remember that ISO 9000 was amended in 2005! There is no stipulation that 9001 and 9004 must be revised simultaneously. What surprises me is the fact that none of this is being announced anywhere. Looks like The Cove is doing some investigative reporting, a la 60 Minutes. :tg:

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Now we have "official" confirmation that the TC176 decided to skip the CD2 step and the document has now been staged as DIS. We are now back to 2008 as the target date for release of ISO 9001, Fourth Edition.

This link provides additional information.

After lengthy deliberations, it was agreed that the work on the amendment to ISO 9001:2000 had reached the point of maturity where it should advance to the Draft International Standard stage, and should not be circulated as a second Committee Draft (CD).

In contrast, the work on revising ISO 9004:2000 is proving to be a more difficult task, involving a complete re-writing of the standard to address "Managing for sustainable success – a quality management approach". Many ideas and approaches are being proposed and discussed, and it is taking a little longer to mature. As a result, it was agreed that a second CD of ISO 9004 will be issued for review and comment, and then after incorporating these comments a 3rd CD will be issued for ballot.

These pragmatic decisions were based on the progress of the work; however they have one major consequence, which is the two standards will no longer follow concurrent development paths. The next edition of ISO 9001 is expected to achieve publication around October 2008, whereas the next edition of ISO 9004 is not expected until August 2009.
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As ISO 9001 seems to be ready almost one year that ISO 9004, there goes the “consistent pair” stated in 0.3 of ISO 9001:2000...
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As ISO 9001 seems to be ready almost one year that ISO 9004, there goes the “consistent pair” stated in 0.3 of ISO 9001:2000...
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Just because they are scheduled to be published one year apart, it does not mean they would be inconsistent, but I believe that ISO TC 176 will start to de-emphasize the "consistent pair" aspect between 9001 and 9004. Clearly they want to make 9004 a maturity-model type document and I believe that the gap between 9001 and 9004 will increase significantly. Remember that 9004 will no longer contain the text of 9001, if the 9004 CD1 document is a reliable indicator of the 9004:2009 final product.
 
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I am still confuse here... DOes this mean that the new version of ISO 9001 is ISO 9001: 2008?
 
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I am still confuse here... DOes this mean that the new version of ISO 9001 is ISO 9001: 2008?
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Publication 'Target' Dates:

ISO 9001: 2008-10-31
ISO 9004: 2009-08-31
 
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