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You should start a new thread (or threads) in the appropriate forums, rather than posting question here in this get-acquainted thread.
QAMMAN said:
Greetings all,
Ok I'm going to break down and get involved.
I have been using the site now for a few months and have found it very helpful.
I am the Quality Assurance Manager, Management Rep, and Production Scheduler (I know, seems like a conflict of interest) at a small (40 employees) sheet metal manufacturing company in suburban Detoit.
We have been QS now for about 6 years and are pursuing TS registration.
I am down to writing my last procedure for Preventive Actions.
I hate this one because I have always said that a P/A could be written as a Continuous Improvement or a Preventive Action. (I know that I will get conflicting statements on that one LOL)
I have read many postings that have said they combined the C/A and P/A forms as one. It occurs to me that would work fine for QS but not TS.
TS requires a seperate procedure for P/A's and C/A's. I am making the assumption that the two procedures should not be mirror immages of each other so how could the forms be.
One think I like is that TS does not require a procedure for Continuos Improvements but says you will continuouslly improve the QMS.
I am reading this as saying through the correvtive action and preventive action process you are continuouly improving the QMS.
One last point, wouldnt corrective action address root cause more closely than preventive actions? If you are trying to prevent an occurance how would you have a root cause already?
I had a 3rd party internal audit a while ago (that turned into a gap analysis audit because it went so bad) and the auditor told me I need to address root cause as part of preventive actions. I do not see this as part of the standard and do not agree with her.
all opinions are welcome
kindest regards
the QAMMAN
Ok I'm going to break down and get involved.
I have been using the site now for a few months and have found it very helpful.
I am the Quality Assurance Manager, Management Rep, and Production Scheduler (I know, seems like a conflict of interest) at a small (40 employees) sheet metal manufacturing company in suburban Detoit.
We have been QS now for about 6 years and are pursuing TS registration.
I am down to writing my last procedure for Preventive Actions.
I hate this one because I have always said that a P/A could be written as a Continuous Improvement or a Preventive Action. (I know that I will get conflicting statements on that one LOL)
I have read many postings that have said they combined the C/A and P/A forms as one. It occurs to me that would work fine for QS but not TS.
TS requires a seperate procedure for P/A's and C/A's. I am making the assumption that the two procedures should not be mirror immages of each other so how could the forms be.
One think I like is that TS does not require a procedure for Continuos Improvements but says you will continuouslly improve the QMS.
I am reading this as saying through the correvtive action and preventive action process you are continuouly improving the QMS.
One last point, wouldnt corrective action address root cause more closely than preventive actions? If you are trying to prevent an occurance how would you have a root cause already?
I had a 3rd party internal audit a while ago (that turned into a gap analysis audit because it went so bad) and the auditor told me I need to address root cause as part of preventive actions. I do not see this as part of the standard and do not agree with her.
all opinions are welcome
kindest regards
the QAMMAN
You should start a new thread (or threads) in the appropriate forums, rather than posting question here in this get-acquainted thread.