Three user levels of a control plan?

B

Brian Dowsett

#1
Hello cove people

I have a customer who is calling for the level to be stipulated on a control plan I sent him.

At first I thought he meant the Protoype/Prelaunch/Production level but he has come back with the following:

3 levels required are: 1st For operator / 2nd for middle management / technician / 3rd for Quality dpt

He also said this came from a QS9000 manual.

Has anyone ever come across this before?

I've been around automotive for 20 years but only for 2 companies and have never seen this. Hopefully someone out there can shed some light.

Cheers

Brian
 
Elsmar Forum Sponsor

Stijloor

Staff member
Super Moderator
#2
Hi Brian,

Tell your customer diplomatically that QS-9000:1998 has quietly passed away and is now resting in peace....

I have not heard of such a 3-level Control Plan approach either, but I may be mistaken.

When in doubt? Talk to the customer again and ask for specific references stating this.

Keep us posted.

Stijloor.
 
B

Brian Dowsett

#3
Stijloor,

Thanks for the reply.

I think he was referring to one of the shiny blue manuals - which are still used sometimes as reference for TS16949.

I will ask him for a specific reference but I thought I'd do a little research first.

Cheers

Brian
 

Stijloor

Staff member
Super Moderator
#4
Brian,

The shiny blue manuals (AIAG Core Tools) are still alive and doing well.

See www.aiag.com. And I can tell you that these, in particular APQP and PPAP, do not include references to that 3-level control plan either.

I am still very curious though....:)

Stijloor.
 

Stijloor

Staff member
Super Moderator
#6
Thank you Howard,

I looked up Dynamic Control Planning (DCP) in the APQP Manual (Pages 95-101). This is still "team-based." What do you think?

Stijloor.
 

Jim Wynne

Staff member
Admin
#7
I think that perhaps it's the DCP that's being referred to, and the customer is confused. It makes no sense to me as the OP presented it.
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
B Toyota PPAP Process - Three Questions APQP and PPAP 3
R Problem solving activity - Three hours to fix the issue Manufacturing and Related Processes 15
E Three basic questions about ISO 9001:2015 ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 3
K Beginner in ISO 45001 here! Three questions Occupational Health & Safety Management Standards 6
L Templates for three ISO 13485:2016 SOPs ISO 13485:2016 - Medical Device Quality Management Systems 8
S How to number and control translated SOPs - Three languages Document Control Systems, Procedures, Forms and Templates 4
I Flatness - Rectangular part using the three jack method Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 10
B Variable Gage R&R - Two operators instead of three Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 4
D How to fill a Process FMEA - Three columns - Severity, occurrence and Detection FMEA and Control Plans 16
Marc Hackers unleash smart Twitter phishing tool that snags two in three users IEC 27001 - Information Security Management Systems (ISMS) 7
M Three final products in one biocompatibility test? Other Medical Device and Orthopedic Related Topics 2
R FDA released three guidance documents for Medical Devices - August 2014 21 CFR Part 820 - US FDA Quality System Regulations (QSR) 1
A Is it mandatory to revise MSDS every three years? ISO 14001:2015 Specific Discussions 3
E ANOVA for Taguchi method - Four factors and three levels and nine runs (Minitab) Using Minitab Software 6
Ajit Basrur India marks three years since last polio case Hospitals, Clinics & other Health Care Providers 2
S Three Questions on Finished Medical Device Traceability, Labeling and Packaging US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) 3
C Optimize One Response with Three Variables Using Minitab Software 8
E How can I measure three true positions? GD&T basic question General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 5
B Three Sub-Companies - Is One Quality Manual Enough? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 2
J Three Best Practices and Lessons Learned in APQP APQP and PPAP 1
H Do we need all three AS9102 forms if we manufacture only Piece Parts? AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 6
I Analysing the data from three different cavities of one mould Quality Tools, Improvement and Analysis 4
P Monitoring Production Defects - Three simple questions Six Sigma 3
L I have four groups to compare, and each group has three samples Using Minitab Software 4
N What are three kinds of flow in Lean or Six Sigma? Lean in Manufacturing and Service Industries 4
B What is the psychology behind three rings? Customer Complaints 8
Marc Customer Service - Three Stories About Improving Customer Service Funny Stuff - Jokes and Humour 3
J Calibration of Micrometer Reading up to Three Decimals General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 3
D One-Two-Three Sigma Control Limits - Calculating Control Limits for X-bar Charts Statistical Analysis Tools, Techniques and SPC 3
T Constant for a M3x.35 Set Plug using the "Three-Wire Method" Calibration and Metrology Software and Hardware 2
AnaMariaVR2 FDA has issued three Warning Letters... US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) 13
F Differences among three locations with respect to mean selling price - Minitab help Using Minitab Software 2
R How to determine the reference voltage for three-phase transformer? IEC 60601 - Medical Electrical Equipment Safety Standards Series 12
Marc Three Email Topics Funny Stuff - Jokes and Humour 3
S Best wire size for 'three wire method' to measure pitch dia. of asymmetrical thread General Measurement Device and Calibration Topics 2
L Proposal to Senior Management - Three options for our new CAPA process Quality Manager and Management Related Issues 2
N DFM, DFA and POKA YOKE - Are these three related? Manufacturing and Related Processes 4
Marc Three-Inch Device Detects 3,000 Types of Viruses and Bacteria World News 0
P Panic time! Audit in three days! ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 10
M Top Three Reasons why TPM (Total Productive Maintenance) Initiatives Fail Manufacturing and Related Processes 39
Hershal Only THREE foods - Informal sharing of tastes Coffee Break and Water Cooler Discussions 17
isolisa Three ISO 17025 Questions ISO 17025 related Discussions 8
P Determining Sample Size - Filling a bag with three different types of candy Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 31
T Gage R & R Study "Best Practices" - More than three operators? Gage R&R (GR&R) and MSA (Measurement Systems Analysis) 8
S The Three Jars! Brain Teasers and Puzzles 4
M Chi Square Help - One of my variables has three possible results Using Minitab Software 15
Proud Liberal Using Three (3) Gage Pins to Check Hole Inspection, Prints (Drawings), Testing, Sampling and Related Topics 5
O Difference between Six and Three Sigma? Statistical Analysis Tools, Techniques and SPC 11
D Gap Analysis - Three months until our ISO/TS 16949 3rd party surveillance audit IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 4
Sidney Vianna Tough talk on Detroit Three doesn't consider suppliers World News 0

Similar threads

Top Bottom