Tier 2 supplier - Ford specific requirments and the Ford Portal

L

lday38

#1
Tier 2 supplier Ford specific requirments

I would like to get a dialogue going on how tier 2 suppliers are affected with the Nov 2003 Ford customer specific requirements for TS 16949:2002.
We have a customer that we will begin shipping to within the next month,
that sells directly to Ford. I would like information on their web qpr portral.
I have asked for permission but not yet received.
 
Elsmar Forum Sponsor
M

Mike Smith

#3
We also sell directly to a customer that supplies Ford. We ask for access to the Ford supplier throught COVISINT. We were denied access to the portal simply because we did not have a Ford supplier code. Our customer that we supply to is Visteon. I have discussed this with them and have been told the same thing. No access.

As I see it, if you do not sell directly to Ford, you do not have to comply with the CSR`s. Your direct customer does. You would have to comply with your direct customers CSR`s. In our case Visteon, which has their own CSR`s.
 
H

Hermann - 2011

#4
Yep. I'll confirm that. If you dont have a 5 letter GSDB code there is no access.
The bottom line is that 16949 requires that you cascade the standard downward by using certified suppliers. If Ford gives their supplier a hard time by demanding 100% fulfillment of CSRs then that supplier will have to pass on the requirements to you.
In real life, provided the supplier delivers on-time with zero ppm and keeps the system data (assessments, certificates etc) updated ie gives the STA no problems, they will be left alone and so will you.
 
Thread starter Similar threads Forum Replies Date
Q Supplier PPAPs - Self Certified - First tier supplier to Ford APQP and PPAP 1
noratkhen Eligibility to get a IATF 16949 certificate for a Tier N>3 supplier? IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 25
D Supplier Scorecard, Assessment of Pass Through Items From Sub Tier Suppliers Supplier Quality Assurance and other Supplier Issues 4
xfngrs CQI-19 Sub-Tier Supplier Management IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 1
M Key Supplier Risk Mitigation - Supplier Changes or wants to change Sub-Tier Suppliers Supplier Quality Assurance and other Supplier Issues 5
M CAPA (Corrective and Preventive Action) Standards & Templates for Tier 1 Supplier IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 4
T Diversity Vendor (Supplier) Requirements for Tier 1 and 2 Companies Customer and Company Specific Requirements 3
B Supplier Development - TS 16949 Flow Down Requirements - Tier 2 Supplier IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 13
T Reopening a Closed Division - Multi-division tier 2 automotive supplier IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 7
P Must show Sub-Supplier details? Supplying a Tier 2 company IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 7
R Approved Vendor (Supplier) if Customer Pays Sub-tier Shipping Company ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 9
W Eligibility of Tier 2 supplier of forged parts to get TS 16949:2002 certificate IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 13
S PPAP for my tier 3 suppliers - Sub-Supplier Process Changes APQP and PPAP 16
D Supplier QMS Development - Tier 3 integrated circuit supplier to automotive Supplier Quality Assurance and other Supplier Issues 4
L Are we a tier 1 or a tier 2 supplier? Supplier Quality Assurance and other Supplier Issues 3
F Who pays for DVP? Subcontractors or Tier 1 Supplier? APQP and PPAP 1
K PPAP basic help needed - Tier 1 automotive supplier for an electrical wiring harness APQP and PPAP 4
S TS 16949 - Supplier Certification - We have one Tier 1 automotive customer Supplier Quality Assurance and other Supplier Issues 20
I Post-delivery activities - How do you describe for a 2nd or 3rd tier supplier? Supplier Quality Assurance and other Supplier Issues 2
apestate PPAP and AIAG in non-QS/TS company - Tier 2 Supplier APQP and PPAP 10
J PPAP Submission Package - Tier II supplier to a Tier I APQP and PPAP 14
L 3rd Tier Supplier - ow can we approve this company as being a qualified supplier Supplier Quality Assurance and other Supplier Issues 5
R PPAP applicability - Supply molds to a Tier 1 supplier to GM QS-9000 - American Automotive Manufacturers Standard 3
optomist1 Survey of Tier 1 & Tier 2 suppliers APQP and PPAP 6
qualprod What tier number fits in a company producing paper labels stuck on automotive parts? IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 7
J AS9104-1 Clause 18.1 (a) (b) - Organizations (contractor) shall be required to allow access to Tier 2 data AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 7
L Informational IATF 16949 certification requirement for Tier 2/Tier 3 Suppliers IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 15
J IATF Minimum Automotive Quality Management System Requirements for Sub-Tier Suppliers IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 12
T PPAP - Complaint from a Tier One customer concerning Product Dimension IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 26
P Tier 2 Part Approval where Painting is Outsourced APQP and PPAP 2
Manix Automotive Warranty Process at Tier 1 Level Challenges and Development Considerations Quality Manager and Management Related Issues 2
Buckyb Boeing QMS Requirements for Tier 2 Distributors AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 20
R Tier 2 Laboratory Accreditation IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 3
M Are OEM requirements (CSR) applicable to Tier 2 Suppliers IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 3
J We anneal aluminum tube (tier 2, bulk material) - Does CQI-9 apply to us? IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 4
P Problem with TS 16949 System Scope in Tier 2 Company IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 3
H Tier 1 ISO/TS 16949 Subscribers (Origin of TS 16949) IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 9
K TS 16949 Tier 2 Customer Specific Requirements? IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 9
V Are Customer Specific Requirements applied to the second tier suppliers Customer and Company Specific Requirements 14
N How are YOUR tier 2 documents numbered? Document Control Systems, Procedures, Forms and Templates 16
M Tier II Automotive Paint Shop - questions questions questions IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 9
J Chrysler Gage Standard - Gage standard for all Tier II stamping gages Customer and Company Specific Requirements 3
G Manufacturing -> Warehouse -> Tier 1/OEM - Process flow, PFMEA, & Control Plan FMEA and Control Plans 9
P Two tier objectives - ISO 14001 Objectives and Targets ISO 14001:2015 Specific Discussions 10
D Are FIR's performed per AS9102, either at Tier 2 or from Tier 3's? AS9100, IAQG, NADCAP and Aerospace related Standards and Requirements 2
D TS 16949 and Control Plans - Need Tier II/III follow AIAG Annex A Format? IATF 16949 - Automotive Quality Systems Standard 27
B Can I use Multiple Sub-Tier Suppliers for the Same Part Number APQP and PPAP 2
M What are the Ford Tier 1 Requirements Customer and Company Specific Requirements 3
Q QS9000 Tier 2 for 12 Years - Transitioning to ISO9001 - Where do I start? ISO 9000, ISO 9001, and ISO 9004 Quality Management Systems Standards 25
B TS 16949 CSR for GM Tier 2 Machining Sources Customer and Company Specific Requirements 2

Similar threads

Top Bottom