Timeframe to transition to ISO 9001:2000 - ISO 9002:1994 certificate expires in 2007

Al Rosen

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I am looking at a ISO 9002:1994 certificate issued on October 27, 2004 and expiring 3 years later in 2007. My understanding was that within 3 years of the publication of ISO 9001:2000 (December 2000) everyone had to transition. Any comments as to how this is possible or am I wrong about the transition period?
 
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Hello Al!

What is wrong with a certificate issued on October 27, 2004 and expiring 3 years later in 2007? Or is it a ISO 9001:1994 certificate? In this case it can also be issued, but it is not accredited by any organization. If it was issued by an accredited organization, they might run into trouble, but I also saw many certificates to ISO 13485:2000 (and 46001/2) issued by notified bodies which expire long after this June when the standard is revoked.

With four words: The certificate is void.

~ghw
 

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Al Rosen said:
I am looking at certificate issued on October 27, 2004 and expiring 3 years later in 2007. My understanding was that within 3 years of the publication of ISO 9001:2000 (December 2000) everyone had to transition. Any comments as to how this is possible or am I wrong about the transition period?
Your transition date is correct. The certificate or System Certified to 9001:1994 would no longer be acceptable to the accreditation forum. Is the certificate issued for 9001:1994 or 9001:2000?

Coury Ferguson
 

Al Rosen

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I've edited my post to state ISO 9002:1994. It was issued by a ANSI-RAB acredited organization.
 

Sidney Vianna

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A boo boo

Al Rosen said:
I've edited my post to state ISO 9002:1994. It was issued by a ANSI-RAB accredited organization.
You probably mean ANAB accredited. That is an easy one. Such certificate MUST not contain an accreditation mark, such as the ANAB logo. See advisory at http://www.anab.org/HTMLFiles/docs/HeadsUp/HU12.pdf

If an ISO 9002:1994 certificate was issued after 12/15/2003 with an accreditation mark, the registrar runs the terrible risk of having it's wrist slapped by the accreditation body.:tg:

If the certificate does NOT contain the accreditation mark (even though it was issued by an accredited registrar) it corroborates my concern over such practice, but nothing that the accreditation body (ANAB) can do about it.
 

Al Rosen

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Sidney, the cert has the ANSI-RAB mark, which no longer exists. When did it become ANAB?
 

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Al Rosen said:
According to the ANAB Database, the Registrar no longer exists. Its certs were withdrawn & transfered to another Registrar.
OK. If you want, you can ask the NEW registrar IF they have issued a certificate to this organization. The certificate that you mentioned in the original post is obviously not valid.
 
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