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Hello experts
We are a big size organization. We are heading for ISO 9001 but just now the management showed some interest to go for TL 9000.
I need your help to answer these questions, please:
1- Can we apply TL 9000 to one function (in our case it is operation- 5000 employees)?
2- How would this affect our plan towards the ISO9001?
3- Are we going to work on two different projects ( ISO 9001 & TL 9000) at the same time? or can they be one project with two phases?
4- How much requirements does TL9000 have compared to ISO 9001? I mean if it takes 6-9 months to implement ISO 9001, how much longer would it take for the TL9000 to be implemented and then certified?
5- Finally, how about the cost? ISO 9001 Vs. TL 9000?
Thanks in advance, If you can answer any of these questions, please do so.....
We are a big size organization. We are heading for ISO 9001 but just now the management showed some interest to go for TL 9000.
I need your help to answer these questions, please:
1- Can we apply TL 9000 to one function (in our case it is operation- 5000 employees)?
2- How would this affect our plan towards the ISO9001?
3- Are we going to work on two different projects ( ISO 9001 & TL 9000) at the same time? or can they be one project with two phases?
4- How much requirements does TL9000 have compared to ISO 9001? I mean if it takes 6-9 months to implement ISO 9001, how much longer would it take for the TL9000 to be implemented and then certified?
5- Finally, how about the cost? ISO 9001 Vs. TL 9000?
Thanks in advance, If you can answer any of these questions, please do so.....
Nevertheless, we were also pondering the same general question (to go straight for TL or to go for ISO first) a couple of months ago, and our conclusion was: if we had to get TL-certified we would do it in two phases (i.e. we would get ISO-certified first).
This conclusion was based on the following:
- Some third-party professional advices we've got. When we were "scouting the certification territory" by talking to a couple of TL consultants, we were told that the two-phase route to TL is much better. The consultants did not give us too many details (because we didn't ask too much at that point
), but the general rationale was quite simple and convincing: since TL is just ISO plus some additional requirements, essentially there is nothing to lose when you "get TL" in two steps; quite the contrary, you will get some value quicker by "getting ISO" as a first step.
- Our own assessment of the standards. When you have to start from scratch, ISO 9001 appears to be quite intimidating by itself. And, although the number of requirements added by TL does not look very large, these requirements appear to make the overall "framework" substantially tougher.
NB: By the way, as far as I know the last version of TL 9000 is based on ISO 9001:2000 and have not been revised in response to ISO 9001:2008 yet. I don't know what are QUEST Forum's current plans about this, but if they decide to revise TL 9000 - if only to improve the language and structure - I would definitely prefer to use the newer version later.
.)
Perhaps, here is another good reason to go for TL in two steps: even if you decide to go for "just ISO" first, I think you can't really avoid addressing some of the TL's requirements anyway (e.g. ESD-related stuff), but you would not have to address them to a "certifiable level" right off the bat...
I'm not sure my unprofessional feedback will be of much help, but I hope it would not hurt.
Best regards,
Yarik.