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Training Needs Assessment including Orientation Training

SteelMaiden

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#21
lday38 said:
I also am finding out the hard way that a lot of the OSHA trianing has been done for new employees becasue OSHA only requires that it be doneyearly. therefore an employee can work 11 months and not have had Hazrdous material training.
Randy's advice is IMPERETIVE. Check your state/OSHA laws again. Most, if not all, of that training you are talking about people not getting is mandated upon hire or transfer to a different area with yearly re-training/refresher. Please, if you are working for/with safety dept., check these laws carefully and save yourself some big heartache and monster fines.
 
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mshell

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New Hire Orientation Program

We have developed an orientation program for each area of the organization. This program includes ISO documentation that all employees must be trained on, required Safety Training and HR documentation. This training is mandatory for all new employees (they do not begin work without having received the required training). The job specific training is accomplished during the 90 day probationary period.

Depending on the size of your QMS, it really does not take much time and you use a program like powerpoint to link the required documents, the links are updated as the documents change and there is very little maintenance (other than adding new requirements).

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Randy

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#23
mshell said:
The job specific training is accomplished during the 90 day probationary period.
The OSHA related job specific training better take place before the folks are actually allowed to work. If not could have a N/C (not to mention the legal ramifications for the legal and civil side). Check it...if it's broke, fix it.
 
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lday38

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safety and HazMat training

Hi Folks
It appears from the responses that everyone feels as I do that safety and Hazamat should be part of the training program. I am still trying to be clear in regard to the law. This only came in to play for me because of my responsibility for acheiving registeration for ISO/TS 16949 at my company.
Is the safety and OSHA required trianing subject to audit under the standard?
Has anyone seen that in print that would support the requirement and sell this to upper management?
I have already asked to control the safety training form on personal safety equipment but there appears to be some fears regarding this? I thought maybe if it was auditable and they could see it in print from a reputable source that might due it.
Thanks for the input.
 
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mshell

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The requirement is not specified in the standard but it is implied in section 4.2. If you have a copy of ANSI/ISO/ASQ Q9004-2000, look at the guidance section on page 3 and it will give you examples of the things that should be considered when addressing documentation. One of those items is relevant statutory and regulatory requirements (OSHA).

In my opinion, it is easier to manage all training in the same manner whether it be ISO, safety, process related or external. If the training is taking place as required, inclusion in your QMS should not be an issue.
 

Cari Spears

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#26
mshell said:
The requirement is not specified in the standard but it is implied in section 4.2. If you have a copy of ANSI/ISO/ASQ Q9004-2000, look at the guidance section on page 3 and it will give you examples of the things that should be considered when addressing documentation. One of those items is relevant statutory and regulatory requirements (OSHA).

In my opinion, it is easier to manage all training in the same manner whether it be ISO, safety, process related or external. If the training is taking place as required, inclusion in your QMS should not be an issue.
ISO9004 is my favorite source of guidance, it is also what I reference when I am working with our management team at meeting the intent of requirements that are not explicit in ISO9001.

Good point in your second paragraph - this is what we do here.
 
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