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Let me get my crystal ball out... The answer is.... QS and 16949 are not that much different. 16949 will probably win because I suspect the auto makers would like to phase out QS support and things are 'becoming more global' with consideration to some national requirements like VDA6.1 (and the rest of the VDA series, for thqat matter).
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Elberth Ardila Tabera
Thanks for helping me Marc, this topic (ISO 16949) its new to me.
Where I can Get the latest copy of this standar?. 16949 its a official ISO document?
is it in development?
Where I can Get the latest copy of this standar?. 16949 its a official ISO document?
is it in development?
The AIAG I believe - www.aiag.org
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Roger Eastin
You can get it, as Marc states, from AIAG. You can also get it from ASQ or ANSI. AIAG offers the whole thing (customer requirements, etc.), but, except for the standard itself, nothing else is published. You just have to wait until they publish the rest of it. When will it be published? The last I heard was 4th quarter 1999! We'll see...
I have just received a copy of a communique from IATF which I received through Renault and PSA( Peugot and Citroen).
15 oct 1999 launch
" compilance with ISO/TS 16949 ..... is accepted as the international equivalent by IATF participating organisations..."
Please e-mail me with a fax number and I will send to anyone interested the full communique.
15 oct 1999 launch
" compilance with ISO/TS 16949 ..... is accepted as the international equivalent by IATF participating organisations..."
Please e-mail me with a fax number and I will send to anyone interested the full communique.
Subject: Howard Atkins: ISO 16949 - IATF communiqué
Date: 09 Nov 1999 04:52:39 -0500
From: Richard.Sadler@vickers-systems.com
To: Forum_Mail@qs9000.com
FAO: Howard Atkins
Howard,
I've just read your post in the ISO16949 forum and would be interested in getting the entire communiqué.
I've been working with my quality systems manager, towards QS9000, but I'm trying to get some buy-in towards ISO 16949. We are presently ISO 9001 and looking to go to QS 9000, or similar in the next couple of years. The more backing I can get from the big-boys (Big 3, Renault, etc,) the better.
The work you guys are doing on this forum has been really useful in getting us to the stage we are. I really appreciate the information you pass on.
Richard Sadler Fax: +44 (0) 1705 487110
Regards
Richard Sadler
Manufacturing Quality Engineer
Eaton Corporation - Vickers Industrial Products
Date: 09 Nov 1999 04:52:39 -0500
From: Richard.Sadler@vickers-systems.com
To: Forum_Mail@qs9000.com
FAO: Howard Atkins
Howard,
I've just read your post in the ISO16949 forum and would be interested in getting the entire communiqué.
I've been working with my quality systems manager, towards QS9000, but I'm trying to get some buy-in towards ISO 16949. We are presently ISO 9001 and looking to go to QS 9000, or similar in the next couple of years. The more backing I can get from the big-boys (Big 3, Renault, etc,) the better.
The work you guys are doing on this forum has been really useful in getting us to the stage we are. I really appreciate the information you pass on.
Richard Sadler Fax: +44 (0) 1705 487110
Regards
Richard Sadler
Manufacturing Quality Engineer
Eaton Corporation - Vickers Industrial Products
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Roger Eastin
Howard - please e-mail the announcement to me as well. I imagine it won't be too long before we get something more official from the Big 3 as well.
Howard scanned and e-mailed it (faster than FedEx!!!) and it is posted at The Cayman pdf Files Zone as IATF.gif and IATF.PCX
My thanks, Howard!
[This message has been edited by Marc Smith (edited 09 November 1999).]
My thanks, Howard!
[This message has been edited by Marc Smith (edited 09 November 1999).]
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