TS 16949 Clause 4.2.3.1 - Customer Print Revisions

[JaySturgeon]

TS- 4.2.3.1 Note

Question: If I have a customer who changes print revisions, but that change only affects my control plan and/or PFMEA due to the print revision level changing do I still have to submit a new warrant for PPAP approval.

Jay Sturgeon

 

[Scott Hackler]

Ts-4.2.3.1

According to TS supplements, resubmission samples are required:
1. Change from an approved process or material including tooling and equipment;
2. Following rebuilding or relocation of existing tooling or equipment, and;
3. Change of subcontractor providing materials or services.

We are a manufacturing company and our automotive customers often submit print revisions. If the revision does not affect the quality of the product produced, only the paperwork is revised and noted. No resubmission has been required by our customers, nor has this practice been questioned by our auditors.

 

[howste]

I think it all depends on what your customer wants. I had a customer that would ask for a new PSW every time they changed the revision level of a print. If it didn't affect the part (form, fit, function) I would just send them a PSW form stating that all data was the same as the previous revision. They would sign it, and that was it.

 

[Bill Ryan - 2007]

I agree with Scott and Howste. I get in touch with my SQE and ask exactly what they might need for a submission. Normally they need a PSW so each party cna show that the "change" was addressed and the P.Os., labels, etc. are updated to the current level.

Bill