M
msoules
We heard a while ago that there was to be a meeting of the powers that be in April and the site extension elimination was to be discussed. Anyone know if anything changed there?
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L
lk2012
Hi,
are you referring to the change in the IATF Rules for Recognition rev4 perhaps?
Extract here:
are you referring to the change in the IATF Rules for Recognition rev4 perhaps?
Extract here:
CHANGE:
Manufacturing Site Extensions (also known as manufacturing satellites) do not exist anymore, and must be treated as Manufacturing Sites.
Starting April 1st 2014 and to be implemented on a one-year timeline until April 1st 2015:
• A main Manufacturing Site will continue with the current cycle but with a new calculation of days according to a separate headcount of only the Manufacturing Site (all site extensions removed). Certificates for the Manufacturing Site will be revised with removal of site extensions from the certificate appendix.
• The current site extensions will become new Manufacturing Sites as either stand-alone or within a corporate scheme with the main Manufacturing Site. A previous site extension will start with an initial audit scheduled according to audit cycle rules, however, no Stage 1 is required and the duration of Stage 2 can be reduced to the equivalent duration of a recertification audit. A new certificate for a previous site extension shall be issued after a positive certification decision following the initial audit.
• A main Manufacturing Site will continue with the current cycle but with a new calculation of days according to a separate headcount of only the Manufacturing Site (all site extensions removed). Certificates for the Manufacturing Site will be revised with removal of site extensions from the certificate appendix.
• The current site extensions will become new Manufacturing Sites as either stand-alone or within a corporate scheme with the main Manufacturing Site. A previous site extension will start with an initial audit scheduled according to audit cycle rules, however, no Stage 1 is required and the duration of Stage 2 can be reduced to the equivalent duration of a recertification audit. A new certificate for a previous site extension shall be issued after a positive certification decision following the initial audit.
M
msoules
Yes, that. Any amendments to this? Thank you.
Yes, that. Any amendments to this? Thank you.
No - that's what you asked for.
S
Sean Kelley
Basically if you have a separate mailing address then it needs it's own certificate per these new rules.
V
vinny
That is correct as of right now. However, the change made in April, 2014 has created enough problems and complaints within the supply base that there are legitimate issues which IATF and the "powers that be" need to take a look at this. I also was told that there was to be a discussion in April, 2015 to review the situation.
L
lk2012
I know what you mean, it's a bit of a nightmare. They introduced it with good intentions but it made things much more complicated.
As far as I've heard, there's been no official communication on this so far.
As far as I've heard, there's been no official communication on this so far.
That is correct as of right now. However, the change made in April, 2014 has created enough problems and complaints within the supply base that there are legitimate issues which IATF and the "powers that be" need to take a look at this. I also was told that there was to be a discussion in April, 2015 to review the situation.
Don't hold your breath. Search some older posts. They hammered a poster here after he was successful getting an exclusion. Reason has left the building with these guys.