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Issue 1: AS 9102 Applicability: Purchase Order invokes AS9102 FAI requirements when requesting delivery of a part whose design characteristics are controlled by the vendor who is also the design authority.
The parts specified in the Purchase Order are significant elements of a complex electronic system whose design characteristics are controlled by the vendor who is the manufacturer and design authority. The parts are not modified in any way to satisfy customer specified requirements. The only customer specified technical requirement is the vendor part number.
AS9102, ?Aerospace First Article Inspection Requirement? paragraph 4, ?APPLICABILITY? states; ?
This Aerospace Standard applies to assemblies sub-assemblies, and detail parts including castings and forgings. This Standard applies to organizations that are responsible for producing the design characteristics of the product. The Organization shall flow down the requirements of this Standard to Suppliers who produce Design Characteristics.
This Standard does not apply to procured Standard Catalog Hardware or Deliverable Software.
If I understand this paragraph correctly; - Organizations that are responsible for producing the design characteristics of the product are the Design Authority and are responsible for the configuration management control of the engineering drawings that specify product design characteristics. Suppliers that produce Design Characteristics are known as Manufacturers. Many vendors are both the design authority and manufacturer for their products.
I believe FAI as envisioned by AS9102 applies when the Design Authority is the buyer and a separate entity is the manufacturing vendor and when the contract between them is governed by a drawing or specification controlled by the buying Design Authority. If the buying organization is not the entity controlling the product specification FAI should not be invoked.
See related post by Jeff Frost which states in part ... " It (FAI) is based on their(Customer) , not your (Vendor), drawing requirements." ... (Was not permitted to provide link to Elsmar posting.)
Is my interpretation correct?
Issue 2: AS 9102 STANDARD CATALOG HARDWARE interpretetion.
AS9102 does not apply to Standard Catalog Hardware or Deliverable Software.
AS9102 narrowly defines STANDARD CATALOG HARDWARE as: A part or material that conforms to an established industry or national authority published specification, having all characteristics identified by text description, National/Military Standard Drawing, or catalog item.
9102 Rev A, ?Aerospace First Article Inspection Requirement (FAI) Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ's)? (not permitted to post SAI FAQ link) provides a broader interpretation
C2. Question:
How is standard Catalog Hardware defined?
C2. Response:
Any item purchased from a catalog available to the public is considered Standard Catalog Hardware. 9102 defines STANDARD CATALOG HARDWARE as: A part or material that conforms to an established industry or national authority published specification, having all characteristics identified by text description, National/Military Standard Drawing, or catalog item.
The part is controlled by the vendor part number and as the design authority and manufacturer considered a standard part, however the part is subject to export controls and not available to the general public.
Is the part STANDARD CATALOG HARDWARE within the meaning of AS9102?
The parts specified in the Purchase Order are significant elements of a complex electronic system whose design characteristics are controlled by the vendor who is the manufacturer and design authority. The parts are not modified in any way to satisfy customer specified requirements. The only customer specified technical requirement is the vendor part number.
AS9102, ?Aerospace First Article Inspection Requirement? paragraph 4, ?APPLICABILITY? states; ?
This Aerospace Standard applies to assemblies sub-assemblies, and detail parts including castings and forgings. This Standard applies to organizations that are responsible for producing the design characteristics of the product. The Organization shall flow down the requirements of this Standard to Suppliers who produce Design Characteristics.
This Standard does not apply to procured Standard Catalog Hardware or Deliverable Software.
If I understand this paragraph correctly; - Organizations that are responsible for producing the design characteristics of the product are the Design Authority and are responsible for the configuration management control of the engineering drawings that specify product design characteristics. Suppliers that produce Design Characteristics are known as Manufacturers. Many vendors are both the design authority and manufacturer for their products.
I believe FAI as envisioned by AS9102 applies when the Design Authority is the buyer and a separate entity is the manufacturing vendor and when the contract between them is governed by a drawing or specification controlled by the buying Design Authority. If the buying organization is not the entity controlling the product specification FAI should not be invoked.
See related post by Jeff Frost which states in part ... " It (FAI) is based on their(Customer) , not your (Vendor), drawing requirements." ... (Was not permitted to provide link to Elsmar posting.)
Is my interpretation correct?
Issue 2: AS 9102 STANDARD CATALOG HARDWARE interpretetion.
AS9102 does not apply to Standard Catalog Hardware or Deliverable Software.
AS9102 narrowly defines STANDARD CATALOG HARDWARE as: A part or material that conforms to an established industry or national authority published specification, having all characteristics identified by text description, National/Military Standard Drawing, or catalog item.
9102 Rev A, ?Aerospace First Article Inspection Requirement (FAI) Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ's)? (not permitted to post SAI FAQ link) provides a broader interpretation
C2. Question:
How is standard Catalog Hardware defined?
C2. Response:
Any item purchased from a catalog available to the public is considered Standard Catalog Hardware. 9102 defines STANDARD CATALOG HARDWARE as: A part or material that conforms to an established industry or national authority published specification, having all characteristics identified by text description, National/Military Standard Drawing, or catalog item.
The part is controlled by the vendor part number and as the design authority and manufacturer considered a standard part, however the part is subject to export controls and not available to the general public.
Is the part STANDARD CATALOG HARDWARE within the meaning of AS9102?