What are APQP and PPAP?

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chuachomvn

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Sir,

What are APQP and PPAP? What do they used for and why do we need it. I am just a QE beginner!

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APQP = Advanced Product Quality Planning
APQP is the entire quality planning process from designing a concept through PPAP (see below). This typically includes, but is not limited to, Design/Process FMEAs, Measurement System Analysis, capability studies, Control Plans and PPAP.
PPAP = Product Part Approval Process
PPAP is the approval process for the product. It includes the major elements of APQP listed above, plus dimensional, material and performance verifications.
Note: this is far from inclusive. AIAG publishes manuals for each of the topics listed above.
 
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chuachomvn

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APQP = Advanced Product Quality Planning
APQP is the entire quality planning process from designing a concept through PPAP (see below). This typically includes, but is not limited to, Design/Process FMEAs, Measurement System Analysis, capability studies, Control Plans and PPAP.
PPAP = Product Part Approval Process
PPAP is the approval process for the product. It includes the major elements of APQP listed above, plus dimensional, material and performance verifications.
Note: this is far from inclusive. AIAG publishes manuals for each of the topics listed above.
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Let's take First Piece Qualification (FQP) as a mile stone. Should the above documents be made before or after the FPQ? We have some other documents such as MPP (Manufacturing Process Plan), PQP (Product Quality Plan or Inspection and Test Plan). Can you advise about the sequence of document? For example, we need MPP + PQP for FPQ. After FPQ we will make APQP, PPAP for mass production?

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Let's take First Piece Qualification (FQP) as a mile stone. Should the above documents be made before or after the FPQ? We have some other documents such as MPP (Manufacturing Process Plan), PQP (Product Quality Plan or Inspection and Test Plan). Can you advise about the sequence of document? For example, we need MPP + PQP for FPQ. After FPQ we will make APQP, PPAP for mass production?

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As our Fellow Cover Miner indicated, APQP covers the entire product planning process. APQP provides you with guidelines. So, it would help if you study the APQP activity. Have you already purchased the APQP Manual?

As far as PPAP is concerned, your customer will tell you what they need from you. The customer will specifiy contractually what they want and the required submission level. Event though the PPAP Manual spells out the requirements, the customer selects those that will apply to you. Also keep in mind that different customers have different PPAP submission requirements. You should obtain the manuals and study them.

Hope this helps.

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Let's take First Piece Qualification (FQP) as a mile stone. Should the above documents be made before or after the FPQ? We have some other documents such as MPP (Manufacturing Process Plan), PQP (Product Quality Plan or Inspection and Test Plan). Can you advise about the sequence of document? For example, we need MPP + PQP for FPQ. After FPQ we will make APQP, PPAP for mass production?
MPP and PQP are part of APQP. The bulk of APQP occurs prior to FPQ. FPQ is one aspect of the PPAP, typically the dimensional verification.
 
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chuachomvn

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MPP and PQP are part of APQP. The bulk of APQP occurs prior to FPQ. FPQ is one aspect of the PPAP, typically the dimensional verification.
Hi Miner

Another question has came up to me. What is different between Process Control Plan and a Product Quality Plan. Sorry to ask you about some very basic question!!

Thank you in advance for you kind help

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Typically a control plan is a type of quality plan. A control plan has a semi-standard format (each customer has their own standard) while the format of a quality plan is undefined. The quality plan is the collection of documents required to produce a product that meets requirements.
 
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jhaworth

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Hi,
I work for a large FMCG who is introducing major changes both system and machine wise. Currently we dont do any process capability, FMEA's etc but are very keen and have the support to put what is needed in place to be a WCM.
But as part of bringing some structure to our processes we are looking at using APQP , without trying to scare some of the guys here by scaring them with a load of new tools.

Im putting a workshop together to give a tiny bit of why we want a capable process, very top line what the 5 stages are and a snipet of FMEA and process capabillity to really show the benefits get buy in then and then start the ball rolling. Workshop going to involve statapult so they practically can see what happening. (They will already had basic training in A3 problem solving, understand distribution and S.D).

After all that just really wanting any help on if this is right thing to do and advice or basic exercises which will help really!
Thanks Newby Jane :)
 
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