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What are you Paying for Gasoline? Petrol Prices Around the World

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Wes Bucey

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Tom W said:
That is great - I paid $1.76 in West Michigan yesterday.
I can remember collecting 13 soda bottles (two six-packs plus one) for the 2 cents each they got as deposit returns to get enough money to buy one gallon of 100 octane for my motorbike in the 50s. Cigarettes were the same price - 26 cents.
 
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ralphsulser

Wes, I used to do the same thing, only it was to go to the Saturday Afternoon movie theater..25 cents, the 50's was a good time to grow up. :yes:
 

Wes Bucey

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ralphsulser said:
Wes, I used to do the same thing, only it was to go to the Saturday Afternoon movie theater..25 cents, the 50's was a good time to grow up. :yes:
We had the Acadia theater a five minute walk from the house: double feature of "B" movies, five cartoons, one episode of a "cliff hanger" serial - all for 25 cents, including a small box of popcorn.

Of course, I could always pay 26 cents roundtrip and take a bus to my grandfather's movie theater (the Boulevard) where I got in free, got free popcorn and candy and got to watch the movies from the projection booth.

Last week, my wife and I went to our local movie theater to see "Spiderman."

We got in for senior matinee rate of $1.00 each. Popcorn was $5.00 for "medium" bucket; $2.00 for Dots.

Best part of the movie: When all the little kids in the audience went "Eeew!" at the kissing scene (Priceless!)
 
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Bill Pflanz

My comments from back in May on gasoline prices still ring true. More than problems in the Middle East, I think the largest risk for higher gasoline prices is a major disruption in refinery capacity. I wished I had documented it here but I have been predicting $1.50 gasoline for months. Of course a 3 week shutdown at a major refinery on the Gulf Coast could send the prices right back up to $2.

Short term, high gasoline prices are painful but if gasoline was over $2.50 for a sustained period (maybe a year) then demand will be reduced. When prices sky-rocketed in the late 1970's and early 1980's, it took a few years before the bottom fell out of crude oil pricing but the next 20 years brought relatively low gasoline prices. Unfortunately it also brought back gas guzzling cars although not as bad as the 10-12 miles per gallon from Wes's good ol' days of low gasoline prices.

With inflation and better fuel mileage factored in, gasoline is still a great price. By the way, Federal and State taxes are 44 cents per gallon in Ohio and another 2 cents was added this week for road improvements.

Bill Pflanz

Bill Pflanz said:
The reason for the high gasoline prices is the same reason that they were $1 a gallon about 4 years ago - supply and demand. I didn't hear anyone complaining about the imbalance back then.

Here is a little history that some may have forgotten or do not know. The oil crisis first hit in 1973 when OPEC was created. Prices quadrupled from about $3 per barrel to $12. The current price is about $38-40 and has increased about 25% this year. Back about 4 years ago the price was about $15-18. If you factor in inflation, the current price is probably still less than 1973 and was a steal just a few years ago. OPEC (specifically Saudia Arabia) has managed the oil prices by controlling the supply side. When they couldn't control the price was during the 1980's when the U.S. and a lot of the rest of world went into a recession and started conserving energy. The price fell to about $18-22 for almost 20 years as the demand for gasoline and fuel fell significantly due to conservation efforts and new non-OPEC supplies. Due to the low demand and the cost of keeping up with new environmental laws on lead usage and air pollution, the oil industry shut down a significant number of refineries during the 1980's and 1990's.

What does all this history have to do with today's prices? Currently U.S. refineries are running at over 95% capacity and I have heard as high as 99%. That is an unsustainable level and means that there is not enough capacity for current demand. New refineries will not be built due to more stringent and costly environmental requirements and business risks if the price would fall sharply again. On the demand side, people are driving more and in less efficient trucks and SUV's. Demand is back up to 1970's levels but the supply side is less than back then. In addition, there is unrest in the Middle East again which always drives prices for crude oil up. Crude oil is also priced in U.S. dollars and with the weakness of the dollar, crude oil has not increase worldwide as much as in the U.S.

If you add it all up, we are where we should be. What will it take to lower prices again? A combination of lower demand, some new refineries (which carries significant business risk and environmental costs, and more stability in the Middle East. Outside of those issues, there is no problem. My prediction is that a combination of all three will occur and oil prices will again stabilize at about $22-25 per barrel. Even Saudi Arabia knows that if crude oil stays too high for a long enough period, the supply will increase through OPEC cheating, non-OPEC sources or new sources and their volume and price will decrease just like it did in the 80's. If people start conserving again, then the decrease can occur without the other supply changes.

I believe history will repeat itself.

Bill Pflanz
(ex-oil industry analyst)
 
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gerrybean

Petrol in Melbourne

Petrol in Melbourne, Australia is sitting just below $A1.00/litre. I think that works out at $US2.60/gallon :S We are still a lot cheaper than Europe though.
Also, the state of Victoria has had below average rainfall for over eight years straight. Our water storages are just over half full (even though we've been getting good winter rain) which has led to water restrictions and reduced stock capacity on farms. Add this to the farmers also paying increased fuel prices and milk, bread, meat, fruit and vegetables are hitting record high prices.
It may be the lucky country but I'm sure there are plenty of people who aren't feeling so lucky.
 
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