What can I do if I cannot meet PPAP deadline?

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Caroline54

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Hello everyone,

I was asked to preprare a procedure of what to do in case we can't meet PSW Deadline.
Do you have any clues?
Thank you for your help.
I need this to write this procedure because of a customer audit.

Thank you for your help.
Caroline.
 
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Hello everyone,

I was asked to preprare a procedure of what to do in case we can't meet PSW Deadline.
Do you have any clues?
Thank you for your help.
I need this to write this procedure because of a customer audit.

Thank you for your help.
Caroline.
This seems to me to be a pessimistic way of looking at things.
Why does the customer want a procedure?
What is the typical reason why you are not on time? Tooling?
I would want to see effective corrective actions on the last occasion rather than a procedure.
The fact you do not make the date is a non conformance!

Howard
 

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I am not sure it is a procedure you need, rather a contingency plan, if your existing PPAP procedures fails to deliver PPAP on time. I do agree however with Howard, in that you should not be planning to fail, but rather investigating the causes behind why you have previously failed, and tackling these in a revised procedure.

Back to the original question though, if you need a contingency plan, it should start and end with communication with the customer. Always ensure the customer knows in advance that you will not meet with the deadline, have clear reasons why not, ensure you agree a revised deadline that is realistic and satisfy all of the customers requirements in the interim. Most customers will have an interim submission requirement, if you are not going to make a full submission deadline. I always find it useful to offer them this option on the basis of full approval being obtained upon completion of the required level of PPAP information.

Hope that helps.
 
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D.Scott

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Caroline,

I agree with the others. In my system, this would be considered a nonconformity and should be handled the same way any other nonconformity is handled.

You should already have a procedure for corrective action and the auditor should have accepted that instead of saying you need a procedure specifically for missing a PPAP deadline. Your corrective action procedure presumably follows the standard 8D format which includes everything the others have already pointed out (communication, root cause, corrective action, etc.)

Dave
 

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I would also say get a copy of MS Project and create a template plan of typical APQP activity. Therefore you can plan each activity based on experience and you will see whether you are on schedule or not etc..... No need for a procedure specifically geared to towards failing to meet a deadline.

You can also identify areas that have been delayed in the past and allow extra contingency for these in your timing plan. This approach lets you see all the dependencies on the process and plan the time accordingly. If you customer requires a certain deadline that you feel cannot be met, then you can show them your timing calculations, and if reasonable, the customer could review the deadline.

Improve your APQP planning phase before setting up procedures to fire fight.
 
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