What do you think is the most invasive supplier QA system?

ScottK

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By invasive I suppose mean what requires the most on-site customer presence and/or reams of paperwork and proof of design and controls?

I've never worked in automotive or aerospace but have worked in pharma and med device and some of our customers had pretty some pretty rigid requirements above and beyond FDA GMP's... but nothing like I've see people talk about from auto makers.

My current company peripherally touches on many different industries (auto, aerospace, electronics, medical device, etc) but we are so far down the supply chain that we rarely get audited by anyone but our biggest customers, some of whom are just distributors.

I'm just curious.
 
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bobdoering

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I would vote for Chrysler, and their PSO requirements (or fondly known as Hyper-PPAP) with Ford following closely behind with some of the Q1 requirements. :cool:
 
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John Nabors - 2009

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Definitely defense. I've worked in both non-defense aerospace and automotive in the past and nothing compared to defense work (ordnance in my case) as far as an on-site presence. The DCAS (government guy) had his own office on-site, personally observed all of our final inspections, and reviewed summaries of all of our SPC data on a weekly basis among other intrusive activities.
 
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John Nabors - 2009

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Tyker-

I would think that the subject of such an inspection would be a customer, not a supplier. :notme:

-John
 
#9
the nuclear industry
OMG, absolutely, Steel! 5 guys, from 5 different operators, for 5 days, every three years. We were only supplying portable vibration monitors and calibration service. We were not supplying any of the materials or controls involved in actually building or operating a nuke plant.
 

Sidney Vianna

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Interesting discussion. I think that the degree of intromission in the supplier business varies depending on several factors. For example, in the nuclear and defense sectors, there are significant risks at hand. So, it is "natural" to expect a lot of oversight from the customer. Because, there is an expectation that, if the customer stays on top of the suppliers, there is less likelihood of a quality escape.

On the Automotive sector, on the other hand, the disease known as "micromaningities®" which makes customers and suppliers to have an adversarial relationship, instead of a collaborative approach is, in my opinion, limited to the US BIG 3. It is NOT an issue with other automotive OEM's as expressed here, several times.
 
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