What documents/forms to give to Third Party Internal Auditors

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Benjamin28

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I have to agree, it's up to the auditor to inform you what data he/she needs prior to the onsite audit. If you feel the internal audit needs some focus on a specific location/department/process you should make the auditor aware of this. Rather than just provide the auditor with standard data I would suggest you have an open discussion to ensure that the auditor is aware of your company objectives, areas of concern, etc so that a suitable scope can be worked out between you. Essentially the audit is supposed to provide you with value so this type of discussion and planning would be essential for you to obtain the best results.
 
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Ted Schmitt

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Meaning who will audit the auditor? From what I understand, there is only one guy coming in to do it. Nobody here has Internal Auditor training, yet.
Yup... what about your consultant? he should be able to audit 8.2.2. It might be interesting if you can get some Internal Auditors trained before this hired audit so they can acompany and see hands on...
 
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noboost4you

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I, along with the MR, will be shadowing the Internal Auditor the 3 days he's here. We only have one contracted IA in our deal with our registrar. Every IA after this one will be done internally. Our deal also includes a Lead Auditor training course spanned over 5 days. Unfortunately, there are no classes available until after our initial IA.

And it was also discussed that our consultant will not be back into the company. So who will audit the auditor is a good question and an email is about to sent out. :thanks:
 
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Ted Schmitt

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We only have one contracted IA in our deal with our registrar.
Is this correct? The internal auditor is from your registrar? Sounds a bit like conflict of interests...

Are you currently certified? In regards to auditing 8.2.2, any Covers want the opportunity? Some need the chance to maintain certification (IRCA / ANAB)...
 
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noboost4you

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Correct in the sense that it's somewhat the same company. The IA is coming from the consulting side of the company whereas the registration audit is coming from the registrar side.

No, we are not currently certified.
 

Randy

Super Moderator
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What documents/forms should we be able to provide to the Internal Auditor that they would need to conduct a thorough audit?
Those that are required by the standard and those he/she requests that are relevant to the criteria and able to provide evidence of conformance to requirements.
 
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noboost4you

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Yup... what about your consultant? he should be able to audit 8.2.2. It might be interesting if you can get some Internal Auditors trained before this hired audit so they can acompany and see hands on...
I received a response to the email I sent my consultant pertaining to who will audit the internal auditor. He basically said the registration auditor will review the internal audit results thus evaluating the auditing process and the competence of the auditor based on his review. :yes:
 
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Ted Schmitt

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I received a response to the email I sent my consultant pertaining to who will audit the internal auditor. He basically said the registration auditor will review the internal audit results thus evaluating the auditing process and the competence of the auditor based on his review. :yes:
Sorry, but that is not correct... The organization is required to audit all elements before the registration audit.... the registration auditor cannot audit 8.2.2 as if it where an internal audit...
 
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noboost4you

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Sorry, but that is not correct... The organization is required to audit all elements before the registration audit.... the registration auditor cannot audit 8.2.2 as if it where an internal audit...
Don't take this the wrong way, but do you have anything to back that statement up? I'd like to send it in another email to the consultant to see what he says. Thanks
 
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