What exactly does Configuration Management in ISO 9001, Clause 7.5.3 means?

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luis.armendariz

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I'm still dealing to understand the concept "Configuration Management"on 7.5.3, what exactly that means? How this configuration management helps on traceability? or how it is carried out?
 
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Welcome to the Cove.

1. What industry are you in? Configuration management is a term used in certain industries such as aerospace.

2. Under the Note section of clause 7.5.3, it tells you that in some industry sectors (aerospace is an example), configuration management is a means by which identification and traceability is maintained.

3. Although the term Configuration management is not used in most other industries, be aware that activities like control of documents is a form of configuration management.
 
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Sinatra321

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Yer agree with Harry.

You need to indentify the status of the product with respect to measurement and monitoring requirements. Control and record the unique identification of the product, where traceability is a requirement.
 
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Whoever came up with the term "configuration management" should be drawn and quartered.

What this really is, is something that most every company already practices, at least to some degree. you may know it better as revision level control.

What do you do to ensure that you build something to the version that the customer specified? Mainly you ensure that you are using drawings with of the correct revision. How do you do that? You ensure that the revision the customer has specified is what is actually used in production. That is often done by making sure that the revision level on the traveler matches the customer order, and that the drawings used during production match the traveler.

Regardless of how you handle this, the term "revision level control" is much more easily understood.

By the way, there is an ISO standard on configuration management that you may find useful for guidance.
 

Jim Wynne

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Whoever came up with the term "configuration management" should be drawn and quartered.

What this really is, is something that most every company already practices, at least to some degree. you may know it better as revision level control.

What do you do to ensure that you build something to the version that the customer specified? Mainly you ensure that you are using drawings with of the correct revision. How do you do that? You ensure that the revision the customer has specified is what is actually used in production. That is often done by making sure that the revision level on the traveler matches the customer order, and that the drawings used during production match the traveler.

Regardless of how you handle this, the term "revision level control" is much more easily understood.

By the way, there is an ISO standard on configuration management that you may find useful for guidance.
Configuration management may go beyond revision control to include internal requirements, such as packaging (where it's not specified by the customer), pricing and billing requirements, and a host of other possible things that must be done for a given product.
 
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Agreed, Jim Wynne! Config Management can be much more than simple drawing control. In software it's a lot more, for example. It can also mean interdependency of components in assemblies where mechanical products are concerned, for example.
 
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Configuration management may go beyond revision control to include internal requirements, such as packaging (where it's not specified by the customer), pricing and billing requirements, and a host of other possible things that must be done for a given product.
I made that comment in haste and in reading it again I realize that I left out an important part.

I usually say that configuration management is MOSTLY revision level control. I should have this time as well.

I have learned that many people have greatly tangled ideas as to just what configuration management is, and once they understand its relationship to revision level control it is much easier to comprehend.

But you got me thinking, so I went to ISO 10007:2003 to refresh my memory on what is there. From the introduction:

"The purpose of this International Standard is to enhance common understanding of the subject, to promote the use of configuration management, and to assist organizations applying configuration management to improve their performance.

Configuration management is a management activity that applies technical and administrative direction over the life cycle of a product, its configuration items, and related product configuration information.
Configuration management documents the product?s configuration. It provides identification and traceability, the status of achievement of its physical and functional requirements, and access to accurate information in all
phases of the life cycle.

Configuration management can be implemented based on the size of the organization and the complexity and nature of the product.
Configuration management can be used to meet the product identification and traceability requirements specified in ISO 9001."

Then into the definitions:

"configuration - interrelated functional and physical characteristics of a product defined in product configuration information"

"product configuration information - requirements for product design, realization, verification, operation and support"

"configuration management - coordinated activities to direct and control configuration"

"configuration item - entity within a configuration that satisfies an end use function"

Next, it should be pointed out that ISO 10007:2003 is a guidance document, filled with "shoulds", not "shalls".

Perhaps one of the best reasons for practicing configuration management can be found in AS9100C 7.5.3 (Traceability):

"The organization shall maintain the identification of the configuration of the product in order to identify any differences between the actual configuration and the agreed configuration."

So I'll leave it to anyone reading this to come to their own conclusions. I would still say that from my perspective I would stand behind my ammended statement that configuration management is MOSTLY revision level control, and I would conceed that it does include more, in some cases quite a bit more.
 
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luis.armendariz

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Thanks guys for your responses, I'm on electronics and metal mechanical industry basically.
I read all your notes plus one short article that I downloaded from internet, trying to make a short summary what I understood is that configuration managent is:

Having all the status/history of a product/lot/batch/run/etc. including:
1) Unique identification
2) By whom the products/lots/etc were biult/inspected/released
3) Date and shift
4) What number of assy line/machine/measuring equipment/etc was used
5) Materials/components used
6) Supplier where materials/componentes were used
7) Customer where the product/lot/etc was located
8) Drawing revision used for manufacturing
9) etc.

Is that closely correct?
 
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