I'm familiar with the term in the reference, John. Are you saying that it means that someone from the function who made a product can't perform a product audit?
As you'll remember, ISO 9001 (9002 etc) used the word "independence" to describe auditors, but it was subsequently dropped from the 2000 version, due to the difficulty of application is small organizations (I seem to remember). If that's so, why can't "independent" be synonymous with 'objective and impartial'?? Especially when with the caveat 'you can't audit your own work'.....
I had hoped that we'd taken a (huge) stride forwards in this respect, but it seems as if some are still buried in the past with having 'outsiders' from the process/product etc. only perform audits.......I hope you aren't one of them!
As you'll remember, ISO 9001 (9002 etc) used the word "independence" to describe auditors, but it was subsequently dropped from the 2000 version, due to the difficulty of application is small organizations (I seem to remember). If that's so, why can't "independent" be synonymous with 'objective and impartial'?? Especially when with the caveat 'you can't audit your own work'.....
I had hoped that we'd taken a (huge) stride forwards in this respect, but it seems as if some are still buried in the past with having 'outsiders' from the process/product etc. only perform audits.......I hope you aren't one of them!