What is meant by number of "items"? Chrysler Layered Process Audit Question

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jkittle

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We have just started to implement LPA's at our facility and as for the reporting of the results I've notice most of the examples here use the Chrysler format.

"Number of items to be audited"
"Number of items audited" ect.

What is meant by number of "items"? Are we talking about the number audit question, pieces of equipment in a given cell or on a line?

What am I looking for here?
 
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Can you post a link to one of the examples so I can get it in context? I have had DCQI training for Layered Process Audits. Without seeing an example, I suspect that we are talking about the number of specific audit questions. For example, if I check the date on my solder paste, that's one item; if I also ask how long it has been out of refrigerated storage, that's two; and if I ask how long the solder has been in the stencil machine, that's three. Three items on the solder stenciling process and I still haven't checked machine settings.
 
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jkittle

#3
Here is the standard report for DCX. I'm confused by the number of items to be audited. Example: My audit check sheet for a given cell may have 15 questions. But the cell may have three or four pieces of equipment that pertain to the audit.

So is that four items (pieces of equipment) or just 15 questions (15 items)?

Maybe I'm making this to hard I don’t know.
 

Attachments

#4
CQI-8 is the AIAG publication that covers LPA. They discuss Audit Items in section 2.1 (page 13). The language of this does not clarify if the "items" refer to individual questions on the checksheet, or categories. When I teach LPA, I really don't distinguish them either for I don't think it really matters. If you want "items" to mean individual things you are going to check (the language kinda leads me to think that), or if you want it to mean areas, that is up to you. I would point out that the items should be those CTQ things and high risk things.

You mentioned the word equipment. I'm not sure that I would have equipment issues on the LPA unless they are related to calibration, error-proofing, or related to process parameters. Once again page 13 gives some guidance on the types of "items" to be included.
 
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My interpretation would be the total number questions of all LPAs scheduled during the period that you are reporting on.
I agree with my buddy from the Netherlands/Ft Wayne!;)

I used the number of thing on the checklist - document control, calibration, training, NCP controls, etc. as the 'items'. We kept it small and simple, so the number was less confusing and, therefore, meaningful. (if that's possible with LPA's) - whoops, sorry, Kales..........my bad!
 

xfngrs

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Can you post a link to one of the examples so I can get it in context? I have had DCQI training for Layered Process Audits. Without seeing an example, I suspect that we are talking about the number of specific audit questions. For example, if I check the date on my solder paste, that's one item; if I also ask how long it has been out of refrigerated storage, that's two; and if I ask how long the solder has been in the stencil machine, that's three. Three items on the solder stenciling process and I still haven't checked machine settings.
This is a little off-topic, but not a lot. We are new to being a Chrsyler supplier and I am trying to find where to find the Chrysler Layered Process Audit training schedules,etc. Can anybody help?
 

Stijloor

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This is a little off-topic, but not a lot. We are new to being a Chrsyler supplier and I am trying to find where to find the Chrysler Layered Process Audit training schedules,etc. Can anybody help?
Hello xfngrs,

This may be an option.

Here is another source for LPA training:
Omnex

Stijloor.
 
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