What is Project Scoping? Must I work with a SS Master Black Belt?

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Eesha

#1
Dear Experts,

Greetings of the day.

Actually I would like to know in detail about the define phase of Six Sigma.
Firstly I wanted to know whether black belts can work on their own without a MBB if at all that's the case and there is no MBB for say an only Black Belt hired for the first time in a company venturing into six sigma...

Then I would like to know what is meant by Project Scoping
Who decides this...
What is the technique used to understand project scoping...

Please advice.
Regards
 
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Geoff Withnell

#2
Re: What is Project Scoping? Must I work with a SS Master BB?

Dear Experts,

Greetings of the day.

Actually I would like to know in detail about the define phase of Six Sigma.
Firstly I wanted to know whether black belts can work on their own without a MBB if at all that's the case and there is no MBB for say an only Black Belt hired for the first time in a company venturing into six sigma...

Then I would like to know what is meant by Project Scoping
Who decides this...
What is the technique used to understand project scoping...

Please advice.
Regards
First, there has been a lot of discussion (at leaston the ASQ site, and I suspect here as well) about just what the is definition of "Master Black Belt".
In my organization, MBB is a position, not a certification level, and is the senior BB on a team, and has the additional duties of metoring less experienced BBs. We have some experience and training requirements before someone is given such an assignment, and some teams do not have a MBB. A BB on such a team could come to me, or some other MBB for advice and guidance when needful or desired. There are certifying bodies which do certify MBBs, but we consider ASQ to be the standard, and they don't. I know of Green Belts who have lead simple projects successfully without BB guidance, let alone MBB guidance, although I do not recommend it. A BB should be able to see most projects through without a MBB.

Project Scoping is a mutual effort between the Project Sponsor, the Team Lead/Process Owner and the BB. The Project Scope defines what is, and almost more importantly what is not included in the project. This allows for more focus on the problem at hand, and gives the team a way to say NO! to attempts at scope creep. Many SS projects have failed due to well meaning people, inside the team or out, suggesting "Wouldn't it be great if we included this in the project?" Good Project Scoping is the answer to this. One of the best (IMNVHO) methods to due scoping is to brainstorm an exhaustive list of activities and goals that are and are not within the scope of the project.

I hope this helps.

Geoff Withnell
ASQ CSSBB
Bearingpoint, Inc. MSSBB
 
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Eesha

#3
Re: What is Project Scoping? Must I work with a SS Master BB?

Dear Expert,

Greetings for the day!

Thanks for your response.
Sir, when you conduct a brainstorming session for Project scoping, I was just thinking whether or not it would be a biased thing....
The reason being the team members would vote out the particulars that maybe say difficult to include in the project and take those ones in that maybe very simple.

I would want to see maybe an example of Project scoping done for any project so I get an idea of the same. Could you help with some please....

Regards,
Eesha
 

BradM

Staff member
Admin
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Re: What is Project Scoping? Must I work with a SS Master BB?

I am speaking in project general terms.

When you decide to undertake a project, you have to have the scope defined. Basically, what exactly are you wanting to accomplish, how to measure the success, what resources are to be used, etc.

While that may sound lofty, it is very easy for projects to veer off course; otherwise known as Scope Creep. When the project veers off course, the timeline extends, expenses go up, completion gets more difficult, etc. Usually by most project standards, that project is not successful.

Say someone is going to pay you $50.00 to paint the porch. Halfway through, they want to change paint color. Then, they wonder why the overhang right above the porch is not painted; after all, that's part of the porch. You will never get finished painting, and the $50.00 is nothing for the labor you exerted.

Proper project scoping would entail what they are to provide, how many coats of paint, when they will make it accessible, etc.

If other opportunities (even if they look good) arise, you must fight the temptation to take them. Those should be outlined to be undertaken under another project scope.
 
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Eesha

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Re: What is Project Scoping? Must I work with a SS Master BB?

Dear Expert,

Thanks for your inputs.

Sir, would you be able to throw some insight into the duration of the different phases of the project...

I mean if the define phase should be done within a month...this needs to be preceded with the baseline data to decide that this is my project....

So what is the time and analysis that is required on the data that is there in hand...If the data is not as required for defining the improvement do we wait and collect some more data and then define....

But then by that time people become more cautious and change some things in the process then what to do....

I mean I may be sounding very confused but this is the situation I am in at present,,,,,collecting and collecting data. I know that six sigma cannot be done without data.

Please advice...
Regards,
Eesha
 
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QCAce

#6
Re: What is Project Scoping? Must I work with a SS Master BB?

Dear Expert,
...
So what is the time and analysis that is required on the data that is there in hand...If the data is not as required for defining the improvement do we wait and collect some more data and then define....
Eesha
Eesha,
I am no six sigma expert by any means, but I do believe that (similar to a good corrective action) it is important to have good data up front that defines the problem you are trying to solve. Otherwise it may be difficult to measure whether the improvement actually made a difference.

Dear Expert,
...
But then by that time people become more cautious and change some things in the process then what to do....

I mean I may be sounding very confused but this is the situation I am in at present,,,,,collecting and collecting data. I know that six sigma cannot be done without data.

Please advice...
Regards,
Eesha
Careful not to set a tone that implies, "we don't want any improvements made unless they are first defined as a six sigma projects."
If people make changes to improve a process before you've had enough data to show how bad it is, that can be a good thing. It may indicate that people are quality concious and are showing initiative to drive continual improvement on their own. It also probably means it was a minor problem that was easily corrected and it probably wasn't worthy of a six sigma project to begin with.
 
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