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What should be changed in the ISO 9001:2015 Standard?

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SpongeMouse said:
as my observation, there are matrix's that indicated similarities in principle (see attached), this example makes me just think of the possible scenarios that such 3 systems can be integrated as a single entity.

those 3 process = quality (products and services, environ mgnt, and occupation condition)

thus, integration is possible.

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Integration of these three systems has always been possible. However, there are many organizations who choose not to implement comprehensive environmental and health & safety management systems. If TC 176 ever considered making implementation of these systems mandatory for certification to ISO 9001, I doubt there would be very many countries that would vote to accept the change. While many principles of implementation of the management systems are shared, the basic purposes of the standards are very different.

Let's look at some statistics. According to the ISO survey, at the end of 2010 there were over 1,109,905 certificates issued to ISO 9001 and around 250,972 certificates issued to ISO 14001. There were only about 22½% as many 14001 certificates. If the numbers were roughly equal, I might believe that there could be demand for an integrated system standard. Even then, I believe many organizations would still like to have option of implementing one or the other, or implementing one first and then the other.
 
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I would move 8.3 control of non conforming product to section 7, for me it is better because for me it doesn't make sense that 8.3 is part of continual improvement.
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"I would move 8.2.3 control of non conforming product to section 7, for me it is better because for me it doesn't make sense that 8.2.3 is part of continual improvement.
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I'd keep it to it's current location because it is one of those remedial clauses.
 
Antonio Vieira

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May's Quality Progress has an interesting article about the 2015 version of the standard!
It seems we are going to have a new item related to "performance evaluation"!!!
:rolleyes:
 
John Broomfield

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António Vieira said:
May's Quality Progress has an interesting article about the 2015 version of the standard!
It seems we are going to have a new item related to "performance evaluation"!!!
:rolleyes:
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Like the compliance evaluation in ISO 14001? Or is this the same as Management Reviews receiving Management System Performance Reports?
 
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