What To Clauses Exclude - AS9100D

[AncientPig]

Hello, I'm new to AS9100D so I apologize in advance if this is a silly or ignorant question. I know for a fact my company can exclude Clause 8.3 but I noticed Clause 8.1 refers to some later clauses. For example, Clause 8.1 A requirement is to determine requirements for products and services, and Clause 8.2 is Requirements for Products and Services.

So my question is, are there any parts of 8.1 I should exclude because they are also a part of 8.3?

 

[Kronos147]

I know for a fact my company can exclude Clause 8.3 ...

Per A.5 APPLICABILITY
" This International Standard does not refer to “exclusions” ..."

It may be that the requirements of 8.3 are non-applicable to your organization. No requirements are 'excluded' anymore. That is low hanging fruit for an auditor!

IMHO, I don't think any organization can find a reasonable justification for any of 8.1 to be non-applicable.

 

[Analogman69]

If your company doesn''t do it, you can exclude it.

 

[Kronos147]

If your company doesn''t do it, you can exclude it.

If my company doesn't do internal audits, may we exclude the requirements of 9.2?

 

[Analogman69]

Actually Design is something alot of companies don't do, but thru AS9100 or ISO programs, you do have to make sure there are Internal Audits being done.

 

[outdoorsNW]

You are definitely offering a product or service of some kind, so how do you figure out the requirements? An accountant only offers a service but there are various accounting regulations (i.e. requirements) that must be followed. If an accountant offers tax services for several states, for each multistate customer the accountant needs to determine what state tax rules apply or if the customer qualifies for an exclusion of filing state taxes for some reason. A contract manufacturer needs to understand the customer's design (requirements), what process steps are needed to build the design and is the current equipment capable of building the customer's design. If the equipment is not capable, can the equipment be made capable? Is buying new equipment worthwhile? These types questions are why you need some sort of procedure for 8.1 and 8.2

 

[Big Jim]

8.1 Operational Planning and Control was know in the last version of the Standard as 7.1 Production Planning, which may be less confusing. What you do to figure out how to make something is somewhat different from design and development. 8.1 and 8.3 overlap in some places, but they are not interchangeable.

 

[John Broomfield]

Suggest you take another look at your organization and what it does when working as a system to determine and fulfill customer requirements.

You’ll probably find all parts of the standard apply to the services and products it delivers.