What would you give up to prove conformity and honesty?

somashekar

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#21
I agree and if he hosnestly says "I can't get to right now it because the guy in charge of it isn't here," his balls will not be put in compromise position. I have heard someone giving an arm and a leg for a loved one, but internal auditing is a different thing.
Salutation to the honesty ... but look at the process of record retreival.
Simply put, the controls needed for the retreival of records must not be a person dependent. It is good to have next line authority and responsibility built such that this situation does not come up in any actual record requirement situation. The audit also has to check on this aspect and suggest if a deviation is noticed. If this is systamatic in nature, a NC is warrented. Else a better practice must be evolved which is common across the organization.
For balls or otherwise, still honesty is the best policy. This provides for easy and proper correction.
 
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Jim Wynne

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#22
A process must not be person dependent but system dependent. You seem to have no system in place to get records retreived when necessary, let alone audit.
The audit just has found out this by an evidence
If this is systamatic in nature it is a bigger problem that you have to work on.
One thing that's being overlooked in all of this but is worth mentioning is the idea that we shouldn't be designing systems to facilitate auditing, nor should auditors expect that to be the case. You shouldn't have to keep records somewhere they don't normally need to be just because an auditor might ask to see them. If an auditee can't immediately produce something the auditor wants to see it doesn't necessarily mean that there's something wrong with the system. It means that there's something that might need further investigation.
 
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