Which of these two actions is more unprofessional? Verbal Abuse vs. Evesdropping

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Craig H.

#51
Has anyone else ever been in production management?
I would all but guarantee that before the end of the shift at least half of the hourly workforce knew about "Middle Manager" calling "Senior Manager" an "Evil Bastard".
There may have only been 3 people who heard this comment first hand, but there is a significant probability that they were not the only 3 people who knew about it. BTW I count 4 people, unless the person who uttered the slur is deaf, he heard it too.
Thanks. I was beginning to wonder if anyone else was in the "real world".
 
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Aaron Lupo

#52
I know I will probably be beat up for this but I say who cares. The Senior Manager and Middle manager are playing games like little children. It appears that there has been no harm or foul committed. Is it wrong to call some an “Evil Bastard”, sure, is it wrong to eaves drop, sure. Did anyone get hurt no, so move on and grow up. I guess this will teach the Middle Manager that you should not say things like that about the people you work with even if that is how you really feel.
 

ScottK

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#53
Has anyone else ever been in production management?
I would all but guarantee that before the end of the shift at least half of the hourly workforce knew about "Middle Manager" calling "Senior Manager" an "Evil Bastard".
There may have only been 3 people who heard this comment first hand, but there is a significant probability that they were not the only 3 people who knew about it. BTW I count 4 people, unless the person who uttered the slur is deaf, he heard it too.
absolutely. It was all over the place before I got back to the office from my seminar.

What I didn't really explain in this particular case (trying to keep it was black & white as possible) is that 'senior manager' is pretty well perceived as (insert epithet here) anyway throught the company.
So in this case it's a mitigating factor in favor of my guy, he was stating what is already common knowledge.... so Jim is not off the mark here.
 

ScottK

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#54
There may have only been 3 people who heard this comment first hand, but there is a significant probability that they were not the only 3 people who knew about it. BTW I count 4 people, unless the person who uttered the slur is deaf, he heard it too.

3 heard, 1 uttered.

4 people were involved.

Does that work better for you?
 
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Keith Childers

#55
Well,
How has your situation evolved over the last couple of days?

Just curious to know how everything turned out.
 

ScottK

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#56
Well,
How has your situation evolved over the last couple of days?

Just curious to know how everything turned out.
my guy got a write up which is really pretty meaningless.
The 'senior manager' was lingering outside the conference door while I gave it to him. :rolleyes:

Nothing will change in the short term.
The petty, childish BS will continue and I will continue to try to positively change the culture by slowly teaching leadership principals to senior management. There is a serious case of confusing leadership with management here.
 
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