Which Safety Registration Program to Choose? OHSAS 18001? Z10?

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BSMITH

#11
Yeah, the process approach is desired but not required.

Now if you were sharp like me you could have pointed out that ISO 14001 is developed and written along PDCA and that each of the clauses requires specific Inputs-Activities-Outputs with linkages to numerous other clauses for them to be accomplished. So in essence claused based auditing is still a type of a process approach.;)

Trust me, it works.
I did that, emphasizing that ISO 14001 was process oriented prior to ISO 9001 (1996 vs 2000) and that the focus begins with processes (activities, aspects, impacts). I am still waiting for the final witnessing report. The issue wasn't being listed as a non-conformance, but as an "opportunity for improvement."
 
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Helmut Jilling

Auditor / Consultant
#12
OK, gurus, I'm asking for information again. With safety standards and registration becoming more focussed upon, which would you choose to implement? OHSAS 18001, Z10, or will there be an ISO standard soon?
Many of my clients have simply expanded their ISO 14001 implementations. Where it refers to Environmental, they simply and "and H&S." Works awfully darn well, with little fuss and muss.
 

Sidney Vianna

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#13
Many of my clients have simply expanded their ISO 14001 implementations. Where it refers to Environmental, they simply and "and H&S." Works awfully darn well, with little fuss and muss.
Why did they wait for 14001? They could have done that with 9001....

And all the grey matter wasted by all the people that spent time developing OHSAS 18001. Those fools....All they needed to do was to add H&S to E....

When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem resembles a nail...
 

Helmut Jilling

Auditor / Consultant
#18
Why did they wait for 14001? They could have done that with 9001....

And all the grey matter wasted by all the people that spent time developing OHSAS 18001. Those fools....All they needed to do was to add H&S to E....

When the only tool you have is a hammer, every problem resembles a nail...

In fairness, OSHAS 18001 does not bring that much new stuff to the table. When I read the original 14001 for the first time, at first I actually thought it included safety. The fit is awfully good. I applaud the companies that did it that way. No one made them do it.

I wouldn't disparage the approach, at least not until ISO gets their act together on a real standard.
 

Randy

Super Moderator
#19
18001 wasn't meant to bring new stuff to the table. Customers of standards bodies and certfication bodies wanted something that their safety efforts could be assessed against. Those folks used BS8800:1996 and ISO 14001:1996 as that something. That's in in a nutshell.

Get everyone involved, manage OH&S risk instead of environmental impact and there you go.
 
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