Why Japanese are ahead?

Randy

Super Moderator
#21
Historically, since the late 1940's, Japanese business folks didn't focus on the quarter results as much as they did the 5-20-20 or more year end results, they planned for the long term just as Totota's 50 year plan to become #1 in global auto manufacturing.

after all many countries were at that time in an advanced industrial position, compared to Japan, and today they are lagging behind them
So extremely wrong here...from 1945 until the mid-50's the only real global industry was US...Why? Because the US had the only industrialized infrastructure that hadn't been bombed to krap at the end of WW2 and until the mid 50's (we'll give Canada a little credit)...What you are saying is the same as saying the Marshall Plan had nothing to do with the economic and industrialized capacity of Europe today.

Japan is where it is today, and Europe too, because of US aid and influence, not in spite of it.....Gotta be careful, don't want to stray into controversy.

Why are the Japanese ahead? Because you're dealing with a people and culture that did not tolerate a lack of success or any failure. Historically failure meant loss of face and forfeit of ones life...Either at the hands of your leader or by your own. They still do not tolerate failure and you can't change 10,000 years (as they count) of culture and history.
 
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Hanr3

#22
I agree with Randy on this one.

I do NOT see Japan as being ahead. There are some excellent American companies that produce excellent products, in fact they have spread to world dominance.

Caterpillar, Maytag, John Deere, ADM (Archer Danials Midland), Miller Brewing Company, Microsoft, Coca-Cola, Briggs and Straton, Harley Davidson, Time Warner, Brunswick Corp., Coleman, Johnson and Johnson and the list goes on and on. You cannot base international product superiority on one or two industries. If your not familiar with some of the compaines I listed, google/bing them. You may use thier products everyday of your life whether you know it or not, especially ADM. In most cases the above listed companies defined thier industries.
 

Helmut Jilling

Auditor / Consultant
#23
The US under direction of Gen Douglas MacArthur and the US State Department helped to rebuild Japanese industry, business and banking by bringing in highly skill professions like W Edwards Deming to tutor them in US business practices. We helped rebuild Japanese industry (and changed their political process at the same time) because we needed a strong trading partner and Democracy in the Western Pacific to help offset the rising Soviet and Communist Chinese threat in that part of the globe....Read your history books

Because of the Japanese embracing P-D-C-A-CI and other factors and our not doing so they started capturing a vast majority of traditional US industry...It went overseas and is still doing so.
Fully agree with this. Deming helped US industry excel during WWII, and was an unemployed engineer after. Consequently, he was hired to help rebuild Japan.

They were ahead in applying quality science until the "magical" 80's, where everything Japanese was somehow better. But, in the 90's and 2000's US quality has caught up. Japan is not particularly better today, nor worse, but the "miracle" designation is no longer applied.

Applied quality tools tools make things better. Those who do it improve. Those who don't, ...not so much. The statistical tools they applied may not be called six sigma, and the quality programs may not be called ISO 9001, but the tools draw from the same toolbox...the tools work, and is the only lesson to be drawn from this.
 
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pthareja

#24
I ain't being serious - again!

Japanese are ahead because:-

1. Japanese have small eyes. They see things very minutely. Relatively, they see the nano-er perspective. The Hindu legendary scripture Mahabharata's hero saw the arrow while competing for Daropadi. Focussing on the target is better understtod by Japanese.

2. They are more patriotic.
The story goes that the Ratnagiri (Maharastra's) grown Mango (Alphonso) has a lovely scent, taste, shade and so on. It is the costliest and most precious Mango around. One Japanese wanted to carry it home from Mumbai ( Bombay). The other prohibited him saying - man ! don't carry it to Japan, they sure like it and there will be an extensive drain of Yens out from Japan.

3. Japanese believe in Theory z.

4. Japanese don't believe in invent/ or arguing. Cut it short... is there business in it? Let me improve its Quality and apply. Where is the money???

4, When they sell -they say- They are too few ($)?
When they buy - they say - Are they not too many??


Priyavrat Thareja
 
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pthareja

#25
being serious, I quote from the following source [FONT=&quot]Toyota culture: the heart and soul of the Toyota way, [/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]By Jeffrey K. Liker, Michael Hoseus, Center for Quality People and Organizations[/FONT]
A Typical Japanese Culture
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Bev D

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#26
This helps explain some of what makes Toyota successful, but Toyota isn't Japan. Any more than Ford is the United States or BP is Britain.

By what yardstick can we say that is Japan is successful to the point where they are more successful than other countries and we - the less successful countries or even companies - can learn from them and improve?
 
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abd_sg

#27
Working with Matshushita Corp., before 1998-2001, discipline, attitude, training, and working long hours. That's what I've learned from Japanese company.
 
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pthareja

#28
Add patience, and conscientiousness
Analytical ( After extensive reasoning).

merely by long working hours, without diligence when can not achieve proficiency.


Priyavrat Thareja

P.S. Can we put them to a poll?
 
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