Wikipedia asking for financial assistance

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Marc

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Yeah - I read that. They had a banner and weren't reaching their goal just before the direct appeal page link. I really don't understand his position in the sense that advertising provides the $ to make things go. It's the same as here. I didn't have advertising until December 22, 2003. Jan 1996 -> Dec 2003 = ~7 years with no advertising. To me it came down to a bottom line of the money it does cost to keep a site online (not to mention one the size of Wikipedia...). And in my case the number of 'personal' hours I spend keeping everything backed up and going is a significant aspect. I can't even imagine what Wikipedia's server and bandwidth charges are.

I've gotten to not particularly mind most advertising considering all the benefit I get from the sites I visit. I don't click on an ad at web sites I visit unless I'm interested in what is being sold, but their being there doesn't bother me like it did in the past. I guess my point it they'd be a good match with Google for ads.

I don't know what they will do. I know that I am always happy when someone donates here, but I know from experience that it is difficult for a web site to 'make it' financially on donations. Even the public TV and radio stations have 'donation drives' because of their business model.

Wikipedia is one heck of a resource. I do hope everyone will consider a donation to keep them on their way.
 

BradM

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Marc, I'm glad you replied to this. Did you see the numbers for operation? Does that seem astronomical, or is it about right? Obviously "about right" would be a mixture of your opinion and experience.
 

Marc

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I don't know Brad. I would say considering how popular the site is, the nature of its continuing changes and oversight needs (including legal aspects), and its growth factor, the US$6M range isn't a lot in my opinion.
 

Marc

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Maybe I should eat my above words. I haven't really run down the numbers, but this Ars Technica article has a few things to say:
Ars Technica said:
Wikipedia's new plea for donations stirs skepticism

By Jacqui Cheng | Published: December 30, 2008 - 01:30PM CT

Regular visitors of Wikipedia have become so familiar with the standard fundraising banner at the top of the page that they've practically become blind to it, but Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales has mixed things up by replacing it recently with a personal plea for donations. Wales' appeal has triggered renewed discussion about the site and its ability to sustain itself without advertising, while many remain skeptical about the severity of the situation. In his letter to Wikipedia readers, Wales notes that the Wikimedia Foundation has a relatively small staff (23 members) and that all of its content is free. He says that donations help the organization cover the increasing cost of bandwidth and help improve the site's software. "Like a national park or a school, we don't believe advertising should have a place in Wikipedia. We want to keep it free and strong, but we need the support of thousands of people like you," reads the letter. Wales' appeal has been compared to a PBS pledge drive—annoying at best, unnecessary at worst. Critics have long suggested that Wikipedia simply give up harassing its members with endless donation requests and turn to the ad-based revenue model that supports many other sites that offer free content to users, but Wikipedia has so far been adamantly against this option.

Not that an ad model would somehow automatically solve Wikipedia's funding issues. Companies like YouTube have had serious trouble trying to monetize user-generated content through advertising, and it's not hard to see why; what big-time brand wants to take a chance on appearing above unvetted and potentially libelous entries that could, at any moment, have key words replaced by terms for genitalia?

Former Wikimedia employee Danny Wool publicly criticized Wikipedia's constant donation drive on his blog last month by saying the organization is incredibly bloated and inefficient. He points out that Wikipedia once accepted numerous tiny donations (á la the Obama campaign—every little bit counts) but now has a suggested minimum of $30. "As for Administrative expenses, should a charity that lives on $6 million be paying bloated salaries to the ED and her office, i.e., 8 percent of the budget?" Wool wrote. "Is that what people should be donating to support? Please donate to Wikipedia, so that [executive director] Sue Gardner can be among the elite few whom Obama admits he will raise their taxes? No wonder the WMF doesn't want the small donations any more."
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