Yearly resubmission of PPAP - Required by the PPAP manual?

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catetz

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I have a customer that requires a yearly resubmission of their PPAP. Can anyone tell me where in the fourth edition is this found? I would like to verify what is actually required and what's not. My eye sight is not as good as it used to be!

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Thaumaturge
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Re: yearly resubmission of PPAP

Annual PPAPs are not required by the PPAP manual. They're required by your customer. If you don't want to do it, negotiate with them.
 
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shaggy1812 - 2011

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Re: yearly resubmission of PPAP

I had a customer with the same annual resubmissions. I didn't until they "reminded" me to do them. Then, I just changed the date as there were no changes.
 

qusys

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Re: yearly resubmission of PPAP

I have a customer that requires a yearly resubmission of their PPAP. Can anyone tell me where in the fourth edition is this found? I would like to verify what is actually required and what's not. My eye sight is not as good as it used to be!

Thanks
PPAP shall be re-submitted under certain conditions ( e.g. material changes, suppliers, critical changes in some processes of your and so on), as per AIAG manual .
Probably what you are asking for it was previously included in the contract with this Customer. Pleas check it. If so, you shall respect it or agree with them which kind of communication channel you can use to communicate that nothing changed ( via email, conference call and so on)
 
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bobdoering

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I have seen this as a customer requirement in the past, which would supersede the AIAG requirement. You need to know this as a part of your contract review, so that you accommodate the overhead cost. You may be required to perform $2000 worth of life testing on a part with $1200 profit. If you missed the requirement, you may beg for mercy, but it is your problem if you miss it.
 

Raffy

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Hi everyone,
Our customer does not require us to submit the PPAP. However, do we have to work on the PPAP requirements (as to comply with TS requirement)? Please advise. We use the AIAG PPAP Reference Manual as our guide.
Thank you very much in advance for the usual prompt attention you will give this request.
Raffy :cool:
 

Chennaiite

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Hi everyone,
Our customer does not require us to submit the PPAP. However, do we have to work on the PPAP requirements (as to comply with TS requirement)? Please advise. We use the AIAG PPAP Reference Manual as our guide.
Thank you very much in advance for the usual prompt attention you will give this request.
Raffy :cool:
Raffy, PPAP in the lines of AIAG guidelines is not the requirement of ISO/TS. For Product and Manufacturing process approval, the stand taken by your Customer would prevail. Hope you are aware of the protocol your Customer adapts, if not get in touch with them to find out.
 
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