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allen
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posted 22 August 1998 06:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for allen   Click Here to Email allen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I just recently went through a surveillance audit and received a nonconformity for the following statement on our purchase orders. QS-9000 compliance preferred. We are a small company and I knew we could not back up a statement that said, QS-9000 required. When I asked the auditor what was the middle ground between these two statements, he could not answer. Any suggestions?

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posted 22 August 1998 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More details please. There is no prohibition against placing that statement on your PO.

I can only guess the auditor is thinking it does not adequately state requirements.

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posted 25 October 1998 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dawn   Click Here to Email Dawn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What exactly do we need to state on the po?

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posted 26 October 1998 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Christian Lupo   Click Here to Email Christian Lupo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think Mark is correct, the auditor must have felt that you did not meet the intent of the standard. The auditor probably had the subcontractor development subclause in mind, the part that requires you to use part one of QS-9000 to develop your subcontractors. A statement on a PO does not meet the intent of the standard.

Requiring PPAP or certain parts of PPAp from your subcontractors is a step in the right direction and may be all you need to do. It's hard to say without all the details.

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posted 27 October 1998 06:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marc Smith   Click Here to Email Marc Smith     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
On a PO you place your critical (and other) requirements. Many companies include type and extent of control (we can audit you when/if we want and such) as well as things like (if it IS a requirement) ISO9001 registration required. And things like type of material, dimensions - what ever is appropriate.

You said the auditor could not tell you the difference in the two statements - s/he must be stupid to cite you when s/he couldn't rell you the difference - which is what the nonconformance was for. Really strange,

However - I will say that as I thought about this putting "QS9000 registration preferred" on the PO does not state a requirement - the word 'preferred' is the key. But then again, inclusion of the statement should not be prohibited as far as I can see. If QS9000 registration is *required*, 'preferred' will not do.

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