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Bob Kesler
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posted 23 September 1999 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bob Kesler   Click Here to Email Bob Kesler     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have been having problems stemming from the need to submit level 3 PPAPs when we run a product in a new press (injection molding). Is there a submittal process which can include all presses of the same tonnage without the need to ISIR each press?

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Howard Atkins
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posted 23 September 1999 11:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Howard Atkins   Click Here to Email Howard Atkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Please see the discussion at https://elsmar.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000014.html and https://elsmar.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000033.html .
IMHO I do not think that the actual machine needs to be PPAP'd

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posted 27 September 1999 10:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for admin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Howard:

Thanx for the quick reply and your expertise! Your input is much appreciated!

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IMHO I do not think that the actual machine needs to be PPAP'd
Has your registrar agreed? You're in this same boat, no?

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Howard Atkins
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posted 28 September 1999 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Howard Atkins   Click Here to Email Howard Atkins     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No one, our registrar or customers have ever brought up this question.
When we did a customer Run@rate this would have been the time for the question but nothing was ever said.
On the PPAP we just write injection machine with out any number.
Why ask questions that you don't want to know the answer to them!!

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Sam
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posted 28 September 1999 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sam   Click Here to Email Sam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Howard; if you don't number the machine then you don't change the process.
However, I also agree with Marc, if the registrar is "bullheaded" he can make life miserable for you.
Best advice "call your Customer"
On the other hand, IMHO the PPAP/ISIR is the best method available for documenting the quality of the product/process. I would suggest updating the PPAP for every change.

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