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posted 23 September 1999 04:00 PM               

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We have been having problems stemming from the need to submit level 3 PPAPs when we run a product in a new press (injection molding). Is there a submittal process which can include all presses of the same tonnage without the need to ISIR each press?

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posted 23 September 1999 11:05 PM               

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Please see the discussion at https://elsmar.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000014.html and https://elsmar.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000033.html .
IMHO I do not think that the actual machine needs to be PPAP'd

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posted 27 September 1999 10:22 PM            

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Howard:

Thanx for the quick reply and your expertise! Your input is much appreciated!

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IMHO I do not think that the actual machine needs to be PPAP'd

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Has your registrar agreed? You're in this same boat, no?

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posted 28 September 1999 03:39 AM               

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No one, our registrar or customers have ever brought up this question.
When we did a customer [email protected] this would have been the time for the question but nothing was ever said.
On the PPAP we just write injection machine with out any number.
Why ask questions that you don't want to know the answer to them!!

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posted 28 September 1999 05:01 PM               

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I agree with Howard; if you don't number the machine then you don't change the process.
However, I also agree with Marc, if the registrar is "bullheaded" he can make life miserable for you.
Best advice "call your Customer"
On the other hand, IMHO the PPAP/ISIR is the best method available for documenting the quality of the product/process. I would suggest updating the PPAP for every change.

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